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We can be pretty sure that the universe's past is not infinite. Einstein's cosmological constant has been very thoroughly discredited for decades now.

As for the cosmos being infinite, which is what I assume you meant (and probably what Outplayz meant too I realize, now that I think about it...) That is a topic that I have spent significantly less time thinking about but overall as far as I know it is possible for time to have existed before the Big Bang and thus possible for the cosmos to be infinitely old. Whether this is actually the case or what the implications are for the nature of the cosmos... Fuck if I know.

Saying "infinite past" is misleading, it causes the person to think time (as we experience it in this universe) in past tense just keeps going and going or becomes an infinite regression. Infinite or eternal consciousness is probably more appropriate because time is not needed, or an eternal consciousness exists independent of time or before time as we observe it now. Creation is cyclical not linear and time is basically an illusion from the passing of material form at the start of the big bang, "periods" of time would be closer to actuality but this is only applicable in creation not within the reality of God.
Time (or the passing of the physical world) does have starting points in creation but the conscious state of the Creator is a fixed state of omnipresent awareness out of which all creation, movement and time manifest. Consciousness is the backdrop of creation (time) and so really there is no infinite time or past as we know it from the beginning of the big bang, however the Creator has been creating within many periods of time over and over, or cyclically. We naturally associate our conscious experience with time because our experience is being observed from the physical form which is passing with time. But as the soul will find out, the conscious experience stays put it is static, it never stops observing whereas the physical body decomposes, it comes and goes. There is no passing or death in terms of conscious awareness, rather God is creating experiences through the illusion of time so we can have a concept and journey of having a life and this is possible because of the duality of creation and the beginning and ending of material form. 


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I tell you that I worship The Truth as God.

To say that Socialism is an economic system is very different than saying that Socialism is an economic system and that it is Satanic. These are not the same.

Mopac would say that a person that says "Socalism is an economic system" is not telling a lie, but they are telling only a partial truth and if they insist that Socalism is nothing more then they are concealing the rest of the truth.

This is simple to understand, and not difficult to understand. I think even you understand it.

To say that Santa is Father Christmas is very different than saying that Santa is Father Christmas and that he gives presents. These are not the same.

A child that believes in Santa and says "Santa is Father Christmas" is not telling a lie, but they are telling only a partial truth and if they insist that Santa is nothing more then they are concealing the rest of the truth.

This is simple to understand, and not difficult to understand. I think even you understand it.

To say that God is reality itself is very different than saying that God is reality itself and that he listens to prayers. These are not the same.

An Orthodox Christian that believes in God and says "God is reality itself" is not telling a lie, but they are telling only a partial truth and if they insist that God is nothing more then they are concealing the rest of the truth.

This is simple to understand, and not difficult to understand. I think even you understand it.

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What would act as proof for you?

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I understand that the religion you have been indoctrinated in is socialism.

And I don't care to talk about it.
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I'm not a socialist and my post was not about socalism

Respond to what I actually said and not your straw man of what I said, please.
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I understand that the religion you have been indoctrinated in is socialism.
Gross ignorance happily presented by the ignorant
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What I am saying is backed by thousands of years of theology. We have monastics. We have bishops that were pulled from the monasteries to preserve the faith. We have a very rich tradition.


You are comparing this to the darndest things that a kid might say.

Different planet, dude.

But I am glad you aren't a socialist.

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But I am glad you aren't a socialist.

Of course that's what you got out of it. Heaven forbid someone have an economic philosophy that Mopac is told to disapprove of.

And yet we both know that Orthodox Christians worship God as truth but also that they believe about God other things because that is only one aspect of God established by these "thousands of years of theology" you speak of.

We both know this, but only I acknowledge it aloud. You even go so far as to deny that other such aspects exist (at least when you are in apologetics mode) and if God exists Mopac then God sees your denial.

Here is proof that God sees your denial, because God knows everything about you:


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I don't care about economic philosophies.

As I stated, capitalism and socialism is a false dichotomy. Capitalism is a theory about how economics works, socialism has to do with regulating economics.

I am neither a capitalist or a socialist. My money goes toward living simply, paying off any debts, helping the poor, and doing my part to support the church. All my money is accounted for. I have very little spending cash, which is fine, because I don't live my life to seek pleasure, but to serve others.

To make my living, I assist the hearing impaired in communicating with others. When I am not doing that, I do charitable work.


Money is not really the focus of my life. I am not a capitalist.


But I am not a socialist either, and since we have very different ways of seeing the world, I don't think it would be profitable for me to really talk about it. After all, our ways of thinking are very alien from each other.




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And yet we both know that Orthodox Christians worship God as truth but also that they believe about God other things because God being truth is only one aspect of God established by these "thousands of years of theology" you speak of. There are other aspects as well.

We both know this, but only I acknowledge it aloud. You even go so far as to deny that other such aspects exist (at least when you are in apologetics mode) and if God exists Mopac then God sees your denial.

Here is proof that God sees your denial, because God knows everything about you:


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What are you accusing me of denying?
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IDIOT...go pray now to YOUR GOD hoax....just do NOT HARM others with your BRAINWASHED STUPIDITY...GO to YOUR GOD...tell him all of your GOOD DEEDS so he will let you into his amusement park ...Then you can join the millions of other sheeple drone imbeciles..from the Roman catholic CULTand the latter day saint CULT, and the Jehovah's Witness CULT  +++ to many other CULT Parasite organization drones to list.....and KILL EACH OTHER over who is RIGHT.....and be rebornover and over again to keep MURDERING each other for GOD !    FUN !   
Reality check.  Do you support freedom of religion?

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W O A = TRUTH.....and the TRUTH is that all humans can choose to BELIEVE whatever they want...do they really have a CHOICE ?

Many Religious Parasite Vampires infect their VICTIMS with some version of "GOD" along with a Comic Book to OBEY, a CULT group
cloaked behind a Church-Mosque-Temple facade, and horrifically obsolete Dogma to literally DIE or MURDER others over...

W O A = Support of all things that enhance the quality of mind and life in regards to real HEALTH and WELLNESS...which in itself is subjective...
               but definitely does not require affiliation with some "Divine Entity" and especially not some human fabricated CULT, cloaked as Religion

The irrefutable FACT is: NO HUMAN EVER NEEDS TO BE VALIDATED AND APPROVED TO EXIST AND DIE BY ANOTHER HUMAN
especially by Human Parasite Vampires who play "GOD" and hypnotize their brainwashed sheeple slave drones to carry out all manner
of ATROCITIES against humanity, the environment, and other life forms..."in the name of "GOD" ! ..... of course"...= RETARDED

There are FAR East "GODS" and spiritualities that are not founded on the platform of FEAR-INTIMIDATION-VIOLENCE the Middle East
JEW - JESUS - ALLAH God hoax constructs are fabricated on...so there is no need to abstain or deny so called Religion...sadly many
of these religious constructs are nothing more than SCAPEGOAT power and control strategies...by true Parasite Vampire Psychopaths.

The good news and TRUTH is that all humans will DROP DEAD eventually...those who deliberately cause and have caused massive
DEATH and DESTRUCTION both physically and mentally using some "GOD" and/or "RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY" are truly the HELL on
this EARTH...

All Dictators and so called leaders throughout HUMAN EXISTENCE use the "GOD" model as a tool for power and control...sadly most
of these empowered morons are dedicated to themselves...all others are expendable...this continues today with the few remaining
global Dictators...but worse..the parasite Vampires that are cloaked behind Political parties, Business, and fake Religious groups...
still wreak havoc on humanity and EARTH...and use the Middle East "GOD" fear-intimidation-violence rules to crush OPEN MINDS

SOLUTION ?  YES = do to the Middle East GOD hoax garbage what they have done to all the other "GODS" that have come 
gone...any "GODS" that remain known (Zeus and Odin +++)  have been relegated to MEANINGLESS MYTHOLOGY for entertainment...

This is what needs to be done world wide with the Middle East JEW-JESUS-ALLAH GOD hoaxes...unless these idiotic "GODS" actually
become visible and accessible..they must be reduced to MEANINGLESS MYTHOLOGICAL Comic Book characters and never used again
as an excuse to cause harm to anyone or thing... EVER.... in human existence going forward...

BELIEVE in some "GOD" hoax  ?  ...........so what....DECEIVE with and over IT.....NO take it to your grave.....or get off this planet and find
your own world to keep this crap going....HUMANS never needed a "GOD" to exist and die....EVER....


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Why do you self-identify as an idiot and why didn't I see you at the last meeting of the Council of Idiots?

So you were invited and attended.
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Why do you self-identify as an idiot and why didn't I see you at the last meeting of the Council of Idiots?

So you were invited and attended.
When you explain the joke it kills the joke, Hari.

You killed my joke. You're a murderer.

You committed first degree humorcide.

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I think it was euthanasia. 

Sorry - that was cruel!  It suppose it wasn't that bad as jokes go... could be a lot worse.

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Why do you self-identify as an idiot and why didn't I see you at the last meeting of the Council of Idiots?

So you were invited and attended.
When you explain the joke it kills the joke, Hari.

You killed my joke. You're a murderer.

You committed first degree humorcide.

But they did not find your jokes funny.

Couldnt they just laugh at you like we used to?