Endgame

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The rest of the stuff... i don't try to think about too much... like plot-holes of the time travel. Simply bc the biggest plot hole is that Thanos had all the stones... he was basically at god level. All he had to do was use the time stone to know what happened. So... i really don't think about that much bc it's hard to make a movie with these kinds of powers. You'd really have to focus on the powers then (explaining them, their limitations, their weaknesses, their loopholes, etc.) and not the talking/character development. It's something they needed to set up long time ago. 
I mainly have a problem because of the replay value. I wasn't so impacted by time-travel but on several viewings you tend to realize things that you did not before. With this in mind the time-travel aspect will definitely be a problem eventually and was kind of an impact for brief moments when watching the movie. 

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I mainly have a problem because of the replay value. I wasn't so impacted by time-travel but on several viewings you tend to realize things that you did not before. With this in mind the time-travel aspect will definitely be a problem eventually and was kind of an impact for brief moments when watching the movie
Do you watch any of the DC verse series? the Flash / Legends of Tomorrow series covers a lot of time travel stuff and i think they do it pretty good. They got deep with it (multi-verse, timeline changes, branched realities, things they made up). I haven't fully payed attention to find plot-holes, but it isn't as easily noticeable as the time-travel plot-holes in movies.

Do you watch any of the DC verse series?
Yes have a list of them that I like:
Mainly Batman because he is my favorite. 
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the Flash / Legends of Tomorrow series covers a lot of time travel stuff and i think they do it pretty good. They got deep with it (multi-verse, timeline changes, branched realities, things they made up). I haven't fully payed attention to find plot-holes, but it isn't as easily noticeable as the time-travel plot-holes in movies.
Wouldn't know. Must be mixing things or getting things wrong so forgive me if I am wrong. 

From what I remember Flash created a new universe because of his choice to save his mother. That became the default. Batman never lived because Bruce and Martha died in Crime Alley not the two parents. When they worked together he went back in time and fixed what he did. Making the world like what it was. I think there was always one universe but it is changeable. Him being in the past I think created a distortion so if he didn't go back into the past and stop himself and I think joined back with himself the universe would have not existed. Don't know what the light was but must be what the black hole looks like up close. 

Still doesn't make sense because that Flash would still know what he did in the past so basically he is a distortion in reality for having those memories. Since I think anything out of place can cause whatever that light was I think that story doesn't make sense if my paragraph here is correct. If that is correct I don't think it is possible to do a time-travel movie correctly if it doesn't add new rules that make it different from reality rather than mimicking the world we are in. Also that part that Flash can run so fast that he can go back in time is BS. In reality I am sure that would I think change the direction Earth is taking. So if there is another rule like means time-travel worlds because of X rules then it is good but that would be different from reality and would have to mentioned in the movie which I don't think it was. 
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From what I remember Flash created a new universe because of his choice to save his mother. 
From what i can remember, every time he goes into the past he creates a new timeline if he changes something big. But i don't remember that far back into the season to remember if they covered all grounds. I actually don't remember the flashpoint episodes at all to be honest. I'd have to rewatch them. As for the running back in time... i think that bc he goes into the speed force and goes back in time through that... but again, can't remember. I really never pay full attention to look for plot-holes. All i know is they are less noticeable in TV series to me bc they have more time to set them up i think.  

Edit: Btw... i was talking about the live-action TV series. They are all on Netflix which is where i watch them. 

From what i can remember, every time he goes into the past he creates a new timeline if he changes something big. But i don't remember that far back into the season to remember if they covered all grounds. I actually don't remember the flashpoint episodes at all to be honest. I'd have to rewatch them. As for the running back in time... i think that bc he goes into the speed force and goes back in time through that... but again, can't remember. I really never pay full attention to look for plot-holes. All i know is they are less noticeable in TV series to me bc they have more time to set them up i think.  
You are talking about the TV-series? I haven't even heard of it to even comment. Just a general point. A thing is still bad even if it is takes a long time to explain. So basically the TV-series can still be bad even if they stretch out the content and explanation. No amount of explanation will make 1+1=3.

Edit: Btw... i was talking about the live-action TV series. They are all on Netflix which is where i watch them. 
Forgot about the series part. I have watched many Animated series but not live-action because they are not really what I like. 
Examples of what I am talking about:

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You are talking about the TV-series? I haven't even heard of it to even comment. Just a general point. A thing is still bad even if it is takes a long time to explain. So basically the TV-series can still be bad even if they stretch out the content and explanation. No amount of explanation will make 1+1=3.
I get what you mean, that's if they just do a sloppy power thing without thinking about it. But when you have more time to set it up... you can fully explain all the angles. Plus, even if you mess up... you can go back and just make up reasons for why it didn't happen the way everyone thought. You just have more time to be creative. For instance, if Avengers was a TV series... they can fix all the plot-holes people talked about in the next show (or few shows or even season). That's all i mean about having more time to explain these powers in detail. But if you like these types of shows... i'd suggest starting off with Arrow. It's actually pretty darn good. DC is doing really good on the TV series side in my opinion. Edit: This is the order (which matters bc they cross-over down the line) Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow. 

Forgot about the series part. I have watched many Animated series but not live-action because they are not really what I like. 
Examples of what I am talking about:
I'll check them out if they are on one of the streaming services i use. 
you can fully explain all the angles. Plus, even if you mess up... you can go back and just make up reasons for why it didn't happen the way everyone thought.
No but a rule that is inconsistent outside what is going on will still make what is going on bad. If lets say we were playing chess and I decided to break the rule of simply throwing all your chess pieces to the floor. Sure I won because you have no chess pieces left but I am not following the rule. That is my problem. A movie or tv series would have to clearly lay out what they can do in time-travel then be consistent. We saw with Endgame it was not possible and I doubt it is possible with a TV series. Sure it does have more time but I doubt it would be enough.
You just have more time to be creative. For instance, if Avengers was a TV series... they can fix all the plot-holes people talked about in the next show (or few shows or even season). That's all i mean about having more time to explain these powers in detail. But if you like these types of shows...
If the writer doesn't want you to take the movie seriously like a comedy I don't care but I doubt that is the case with the tv-series you are mentioning.
i'd suggest starting off with Arrow. It's actually pretty darn good.
I watched it and didn't like it. I could say more but I would have to watch it again to remember what I forgot.
DC is doing really good on the TV series side in my opinion. Edit: This is the order (which matters bc they cross-over down the line) Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow. 
The one I think I would watch from them would be Supergirl. Flash is too orientated to teens and I find teens obnoxious so yeah. I remember Arrow being bad. Legends of Tomorrow don't care. I pick Supergirl because I hardly know who she is. With Arrow I have the Justice league animated series and flash with the Justice League animated series and flashpoint animated movie. Don't know too much about supergirl which might be why I would watch it but I don't think there is anything I like from the CW so it would have to really good.  
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If lets say we were playing chess 
To me that's a bad example, but i get what you mean. But with stuff that's in the realm of possibilities.. you can do a lot more than something with established rules. There are no established rules with time travel (really)... so these writers can make things up. If you watch the series, they do make things up like negative tacions and crap like that. What i see is that they are trying... which is good to me since i don't look for mess-ups. But it does peak my interest when i see they are trying to make sense of things... and, that is at least noticeable. But honestly, you don't have to watch these series to notice the trying... if you're into comics, or even those animated series... you likely notice what i'm talking about in regards to trying to make it fit. Since i'm sure they do it with those too. But since this is in the realm of "we have no clue what the true implications of time-travel is" i'm sure there are mistakes... that's why i don't look for them, unless they are just blatantly obvious. I'll have to watch the animated shows you are talking about to compare them with the shows. I'm kinda a good case study since all i'm looking for is blatant missteps. That's how i judge if someone is truly off. The more it makes me think, i like the direction it's going. I've noticed at least with these shows, they make me think. However, i'm no expert in science so they might be able to get a lot past me. I know surface level stuff, like when they talk about multi-verses, etc... but last nights episode i watched was funny. Flashes, someone (i won't give spoilers), that also was a speedster asked if she can punch the Higgs boson... i thought that was funny knowing what the Higgs is. Surface level stuff i understand... so it's just fun to be honest. I like what comics is doing with this stuff, since my beliefs, if you took anything away from our other conversations, is a hope that worlds like these are hopefully possible. 

 I doubt that is the case with the tv-series you are mentioning.
Well, i think with series and comics, they do actually try. I think they do hope they can make you think more with these types of platforms. But with movies they have less wiggle room. But overall, i think they are just trying to be fun. Be fun in the the sense of layman having fun listening to the wild theories... and, from what i've noticed, series or trilogies (or more), try to at least cater to people that know what they're talking about. It always falls a little short bc these writers aren't experts... but i think they do try. Maybe they consult experts and write off what they feel afterwards. If i had to guess, that's how i think it goes down. Like, If someone taught me about string theory... a multi-verse type comic could follow but obviously flawed since i don't understand string theory like a scientists does. 

I watched it and didn't like it.
Oh.. as long as you gave it a chance that's all i can say. I like it. But that doesn't mean you should like it too so i respect that. Funny, in your last comment i think you said it's a teen thing... i guess i'm an annoying teen at heart, bc i love it. But then again, i love anything that is fantasy or sci-fy... so... it really has to be horrible for me to not like it. But i haven't found one that horrible yet...

Oh... I just remembered... i just watched Legion on Hulu... that was bad-ass and messed with my mind. Since Legion is suppose to be one of the most powerful mutants there is... i'm excited to see where that ends up, but i would recommend that show. 

There are no established rules with time travel (really)... so these writers can make things up. If you watch the series, they do make things up like negative tacions and crap like that. What i see is that they are trying... which is good to me since i don't look for mess-ups. But it does peak my interest when i see they are trying to make sense of things... and, that is at least noticeable. But honestly, you don't have to watch these series to notice the trying... if you're into comics, or even those animated series... you likely notice what i'm talking about in regards to trying to make it fit. 
That is not enough for me really. With having time-travel rules it doesn't make sense like with Loki escaping with the blue cube.
I like what comics is doing with this stuff, since my beliefs, if you took anything away from our other conversations, is a hope that worlds like these are hopefully possible. 
I am a pessimist so hope is not really my thing so I require something else.
Well, i think with series and comics, they do actually try.
Try doesn't always mean you are successful in what you are doing and this case they are not.
Funny, in your last comment i think you said it's a teen thing... i guess i'm an annoying teen at heart, bc i love it. But then again, i love anything that is fantasy or sci-fy... so... it really has to be horrible for me to not like it. But i haven't found one that horrible yet...
I said teens because when it near enough to its first season it was tailored to teens. I didn't really like the tropes so I didn't like the show.
Oh... I just remembered... i just watched Legion on Hulu... that was bad-ass and messed with my mind. Since Legion is suppose to be one of the most powerful mutants there is... i'm excited to see where that ends up, but i would recommend that show. 
Never heard of it. Doubt I would watch it. 
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Spoilers for Endgame
I haven't heard that a lot.
XD

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Memes were great but I think the infinity war memes were better. Thanos car was my favorite. 
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You should've gone for the head was also pretty good
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You should've gone for the head was also pretty good
No the Thanos screaming like a baby was better.
lol yeah
I watched Endgame on a hacker site... lol.
gomovies.tube
let's go
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Same. It is not a "hacker site" more so piracy.

Just to make sure we are not going to jail we are both joking.