Who's more common; the left or the right

Author: Alec

Posts

Total: 30
Alec
Alec's avatar
Debates: 42
Posts: 2,472
5
7
11
Alec's avatar
Alec
5
7
11
I think the left is more common then the right.  https://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/.  How can the Right catch up and surpass the left?
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,555
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Alec
Silent majority
FaustianJustice
FaustianJustice's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 150
0
1
3
FaustianJustice's avatar
FaustianJustice
0
1
3
-->
@Dr.Franklin

"Silent majority"


-=me refers to the last 2 election cycles=-

Nah.  
FaustianJustice
FaustianJustice's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 150
0
1
3
FaustianJustice's avatar
FaustianJustice
0
1
3
-->
@Alec
Honestly examine which aspects of their platform planks are internally inconsistent.  

Gays vote.

So do people that get abortions.

Probably should make good faith attempts to appeal to minorities in honestly looking for racial inequality regarding law enforcement.


Re-focus party ideals to things that are actually people, rather than people on paper.  

Just spit ballin' though.
Swagnarok
Swagnarok's avatar
Debates: 7
Posts: 1,003
3
2
6
Swagnarok's avatar
Swagnarok
3
2
6
-->
@Alec
Well, it always helps to have 80℅ of the media and 90℅ of celebrities and academia stumping for your side in grand unison/collusion without actual regard for the facts.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 22,564
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Alec
Run out of money.
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 22,564
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@FaustianJustice

zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 11,068
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@Alec
Left and Right are Yin and Yang.

Imbalance results in chaos.


TheRealNihilist
TheRealNihilist's avatar
Debates: 44
Posts: 4,920
4
9
11
TheRealNihilist's avatar
TheRealNihilist
4
9
11
-->
@Alec
Left is more common and for the right to catch up it would actually want to help people not allow Trump to cut social security, carry on wars and socially be bad. This can be seen with the taking of the knee fiasco, transgender ban, Muslim ban and his coverage of the unite the right rally in Charlottesville to name a few. 

So basically the right would actually have to be progressives. Not the case because conservatism is what I consider a contradiction to progression which a progressive wants. 
Snoopy
Snoopy's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,320
2
2
4
Snoopy's avatar
Snoopy
2
2
4
-->
@Alec
My advice for the Republican party.

Help people out of the major cities, and move the Republicans candidates in.

Go nuts on your education, and infiltrate the ranks you are bitching about.

Vote in favor of the dreamers over and over again. Oppose Trump head on for this issue with fury. If he whines, more power to you. No reforms, just own the daca issue.

Pass immigration reform, separately, before the next election cycle.

Pass severe penalties for crimes involving a gun that stand out from democratic strongholds, and pass a positive system for your state, and oppose the gun ban freaks. Promote training/safety. Make up a counter narrative to the stupid "assault weapon" nonsense and give something a legal designation that requires an assembly at least once per year. Promote the civilian marksmanship program at the federal level. Refine the background check system, propose an aid to intervention etc... Make it really loud.


Snoopy
Snoopy's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,320
2
2
4
Snoopy's avatar
Snoopy
2
2
4
-->
@Alec
Also, make a Republican amendment to the civil rights act. Write your representatives, repeatedly. Write a real letter to your grandma too.
Snoopy
Snoopy's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,320
2
2
4
Snoopy's avatar
Snoopy
2
2
4
-->
@Alec
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 22,564
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
Republicans fixing the 70% fatherless issue would also destroy Democrat strangleholds on urban centers.
FaustianJustice
FaustianJustice's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 150
0
1
3
FaustianJustice's avatar
FaustianJustice
0
1
3
-->
@Greyparrot

That doesn't say "Trump for Gays".  Trump is representative of a political party, gays are not.  "Recognizing" something doesn't mean you don't have intent to dismantle it.  
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 22,564
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
Also continuing prison reform and expanding job opportunities for convicted felons can do alot to assist minorities ready to flee the socialist plantation.

9 days later

Alec
Alec's avatar
Debates: 42
Posts: 2,472
5
7
11
Alec's avatar
Alec
5
7
11
-->
@FaustianJustice
Honestly examine which aspects of their platform planks are internally inconsistent.  
Both parties appear to have inconsistencies.


Gays are becoming more conservative because of the left stance on Islam, at least I hope that.  Abortion rates are falling, so abortion is becoming less of a threat.  The left is unwilling to compromise on abortion, even though most claim they are willing to compromise in general.

Probably should make good faith attempts to appeal to minorities in honestly looking for racial inequality regarding law enforcement.
What are your thoughts on black people who complain about white privilege going through cheap, safe, effective gene therapy so they can get the white privilege they believe exists?
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 22,564
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Alec
What are your thoughts on black people who complain about white privilege going through cheap, safe, effective gene therapy so they can get the white privilege they believe exists?
This is objectively BS as it's far more profitable to identify as a protected class today in America.




TheRealNihilist
TheRealNihilist's avatar
Debates: 44
Posts: 4,920
4
9
11
TheRealNihilist's avatar
TheRealNihilist
4
9
11
-->
@Alec
Gays are becoming more conservative because of the left stance on Islam, at least I hope that.
The last I asked you this you didn't have actual proof so I will ask you again. Evidence the left "stance on Islam"?

Evidence Gays are becoming more conservative?
Abortion rates are falling, so abortion is becoming less of a threat.  The left is unwilling to compromise on abortion, even though most claim they are willing to compromise in general.
Evidence of abortion rates falling?
Evidence of "The left" "unwilling to compromise on abortion"?

Polytheist-Witch
Polytheist-Witch's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 4,188
3
3
6
Polytheist-Witch's avatar
Polytheist-Witch
3
3
6
Left and Right used to be extremes with a solid middle ground of those willing to work together. Hate for the other side has changed that. Only a war where we either have to work together or die will fix it. Or a civil war. 
disgusted
disgusted's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,959
2
3
3
disgusted's avatar
disgusted
2
3
3
-->
@Alec
It's patently obvious that conservitards are much more common than the sophisticated and erudite left, but we tolerate them....................just.
disgusted
disgusted's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,959
2
3
3
disgusted's avatar
disgusted
2
3
3
@pollywanna
Private and state and federal prisons are just the continuation of slavery in America. But conservitards have always supported slavery.
disgusted
disgusted's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,959
2
3
3
disgusted's avatar
disgusted
2
3
3
-->
@Alec
The left stance on Islam is live and let live, oh I'm sorry that's the human stance does that mean that conservitards are not human?
Alec
Alec's avatar
Debates: 42
Posts: 2,472
5
7
11
Alec's avatar
Alec
5
7
11
-->
@TheRealNihilist
If you want evidence to back up my claims, you can fact check them to see if I am right.  For example, if you don't know if the abortion rates are falling, you can look up abortion rates.
TheRealNihilist
TheRealNihilist's avatar
Debates: 44
Posts: 4,920
4
9
11
TheRealNihilist's avatar
TheRealNihilist
4
9
11
-->
@Alec
If you want evidence to back up my claims, you can fact check them to see if I am right.  For example, if you don't know if the abortion rates are falling, you can look up abortion rates.
It is your burden to provide this not mine. 

FaustianJustice
FaustianJustice's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 150
0
1
3
FaustianJustice's avatar
FaustianJustice
0
1
3
-->
@Alec


The existence or not of what privilege isn't what I was referring to.

Its been noted time and time again that certain minorities when found guilty get sentenced less severely, as well as profiled.  Rather than force minorities into something, how about the enforcement majority NOT do something.  That seems to be the easier solution.


:The left is unwilling to compromise on abortion, even though most claim they are willing to compromise in general:  

Because denying abortion for the various reasons stated is internally inconsistent.  The only real reason is "to control women", but no one seems to want to actually say that.  
disgusted
disgusted's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,959
2
3
3
disgusted's avatar
disgusted
2
3
3
-->
@FaustianJustice
I have.
Alec
Alec's avatar
Debates: 42
Posts: 2,472
5
7
11
Alec's avatar
Alec
5
7
11
-->
@FaustianJustice
Rather than force minorities into something, how about the enforcement majority NOT do something.  That seems to be the easier solution.
According to the left, that's been tried multiple times and failed.  It started with ending of slavery.  That didn't work.  It then proceeded to segregation, which didn't work.  It then moved to Affirmative action, which didn't work.  Racial assimilation is how we get rid of racism.  They won't see you as a different skin color if you don't have that skin color.  Blacks are already pretty assimilated within American society already.  They are Christian anglophones.  They just need to do a little more to fully assimilate.

Because denying abortion for the various reasons stated is internally inconsistent.  The only real reason is "to control women", but no one seems to want to actually say that.  
Denying abortions is about saving the unborn.  We could argue if this goal is consistently met, but the goal is to save the unborn from abortion and to save lives.
disgusted
disgusted's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,959
2
3
3
disgusted's avatar
disgusted
2
3
3
-->
@Alec
Try really hard to grasp what the abortion question is really about.
Every woman has the right to bodily autonomy, you must deny that right if you want to bring a fetus' non right to life. Please try to understand the subjects you bring your woefully inadequate childish opinions to.
Snoopy
Snoopy's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 1,320
2
2
4
Snoopy's avatar
Snoopy
2
2
4
-->
@Alec
You know, people can have kind of a double standard on abortion, like if someone doesn't acknowledge the rare opportunity America has going for it, and they go off casually referencing totalitarians confiscating property and censoring free speech, they might be perceived beyond matter of disagreement and come off as cringey.  Do you have any understanding of what kinds of concerns people have on abortion as it pertains to the relationship of the people and their government?  Open minded people are still going to be naturally concerned that if the things you are proposing are transitioned improperly that America could devolve into subjectship more like the United Kingdom, or worse like some of the former Spanish colonies.

mustardness
mustardness's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,979
2
2
3
mustardness's avatar
mustardness
2
2
3
-->
@Alec
I think the left is more common then the right.
Wow, your actually using "common" sense.  Is also a rational and logical conclusion. 

If you continue thinking this way Trump will be further into the hole and Putin will have to hire extra good hackers to pull off another win for Trumpee-dumptee.