Discrimination in school

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Professor Michael Thompson observed, girl behavior is the standard in school, while boys are treated like being a defected girl. Its showing. Boys are far less likely to go to college, get much fewer honors and get pretty crappy grades. For example, boys score lower on reading tests not because their dumb but because they're just boys. Boys prefer action and comic books.  However the books today in school clearly do not interest boys. Boys who are forced to read stories like Little House On a Prairie aren't happy. A study conducted by Ralph Fletcher concluded that classrooms like to use The Confessional Poet. Only stories that are full of emotion and have deep poetry are praised but boys tend to write about action, a monster devouring a city and competitions. A third grader made a drawing of a pirate battle and the boy got in trouble, however the dad was astonished that the teacher got him in trouble.

Boys are 5x more likely to get expelled from PRESCHOOL. In grades K-12 boys account for 70% of suspensions. Hardly a week goes by and you hear a story about how boys being boys are suspended. Jonathan Welsh, age 7 was suspended because he made a pretend gun out of a pop-tart. At recess boys should be able to bring their competitive spirit, but recess has been lost by 50% and games like red rover, tag and dodgeball are not allowed.


--> @Dr.Franklin
Poor boys. They need to protest for their rights. Call their movement man-minist. Who would have thought right wing propaganda was so good that they can make you believe contradictory things.

Are you against freedom of choice of a man to leave the education system? Are you for an authoritarian policy to force men into education? Choose one instead of being contradictory.

On one hand you believe in freedom but then on another you want to force education to make sure men stay in school.

If that is not your position. Stop fence sitting and tell me what you actually want or you know be like other right wingers. When push comes to shove they don't actually have ideas they want implemented instead virtue signal about what they want but don't actually do it. Unless of course the right winger propaganda has worked their charm so much that bad ideas are now considered good. Basically an internet tough guy who says he is going to do something but doesn't actually do it but when the competition becomes weaker then he decides to act courageous not when it is courageous to maintain what you stand for.  
--> @Dr.Franklin
Homeschool your children. The U.S. education system, particularly the public school system, is nothing more than a glorified syndicate of reeducation camps. Children don't learn there; they're indoctrinated with Marxist dogma.
--> @TheRealNihilist
All i see is squeaking and calling me propoganda
--> @Athias
Yeah! Screw poor people, they dont deserve any good education system, YEAH INSTEAD OF FIXING THE PROBLEM LETS SEND OUR KIDS TO HOMESCHOOL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Athias

An anarchist who thinks education has some sort of marxist agenda? Never thought I would see the day.

Your arguments are bad. Mainly based on what you are defending. When defending private healthcare you come with such lackluster arguments that are easily refuted. Thoht did that in DDO. RationalMadman did that here on DA. When will you learn? Oh wait your indoctrinated into the anarchist dogma. I would be more willing to challenge your ideas but most of the population consider anarchism a trash idea so I am not really gaining a lot. I'll stick to dunking on the conservatives before I even think about challenging dare I say it worse ideas than conservatives. At least conservatives want a government you don't and think private companies are in some way going to represent the people around them instead of their own interests. 
--> @Dr.Franklin
All i see is squeaking and calling me propoganda
Not actually against my ideas instead point out a few key words. Do you have ADHD or something? Was my informative comment too much for a person like you? I think it is judging from my previous comments to you and how little you do to respond. Even your opening comments are copy and pasted. Guess you must have a disorder which makes you incapable of sitting through things that you don't find interesting. Oh well. Not my problem. 

--> @TheRealNihilist
Again no rebuttals just more classic omar libtard squeaking !!!!
--> @Dr.Franklin
Read my first response. I did critique what you said but guess you can't see. 
--> @TheRealNihilist
Brain cell lost from your response
--> @Dr.Franklin
It does fix the problem. When one sends one's children to public school, one is sending them to be inculcated with state-sponsored propaganda and curricula, which doesn't exclude marginalizing male students by either punishing their natural behavior, or medicating them out of it. Being poor is no excuse. You are sending your children to the wolves when you send them to public school. When one homeschools one's children, one has full capacity in overseeing their education. And if one can't afford to homeschool one's children, then they've been doomed to start. Perhaps, that can serve as a cautionary tale in whether one should have children before one has all their eggs in the basket.
--> @Dr.Franklin
Less coed, more male teachers for male students, less stringent school polices, more leeway for teachers to personally discipline misbehaving students. Boom. Problem solved.
--> @Swagnarok
Yeah, AND MORE RECESS. PLEASE
--> @Athias
When one sends one's children to public school, one is sending them to be inculcated with state-sponsored propaganda and curricula, which doesn't exclude marginalizing male students by either punishing their natural behavior, or medicating them out of it. 

Any evidence? There are some public schools that are actually good.


Being poor is no excuse.
Yes it is, you dont have money for good education

You are sending your children to the wolves when you send them to public school. 
Evidence? and are you going to try and solve the problem

When one homeschools one's children, one has full capacity in overseeing their education. And if one can't afford to homeschool one's children, then they've been doomed to start. Perhaps, that can serve as a cautionary tale in whether one should have children before one has all their eggs in the basket. 
Yeah, I get, homeschool is amazing with no flaws. 
--> @Dr.Franklin
Any evidence? There are some public schools that are actually good.

"Good" toward what? Getting one's adolescent into another school to be inculcated with more state-sponsored ideologies, where they're indexed and categorized by their taxable earning potential?

Yes it is, you dont have money for good education
You continue to mention "good education" without informing your qualification of good. Good toward what?

Evidence? and are you going to try and solve the problem
What do you want evidence for? That one is actually sending their children to the wolves; that's just a metaphor. If you want statistics on performance differentials among home-schooled children and public schooled children, there are plenty of those online. This however is not a quantitative argument; hence, I'm not submitting said statistics. As for solving the problem, I've already told you: homeschool your children.

Yeah, I get, homeschool is amazing with no flaws. 
Non sequitur. I'm not interested in that which you wish to emote, only that which you wish to argue.



--> @TheRealNihilist
Schools need to be open for everyone without any bias and such things around that. Education needs to be fair, and having men be victims of crimes and suspensions and limiting their education is pure bias and just as evil as sexism

--> @Athias
Not Marxist at all, but forcing their shit liberal agenda down the throats of conservatives
--> @SupaDudz
Schools need to be open for everyone without any bias and such things around that. Education needs to be fair, and having men be victims of crimes and suspensions and limiting their education is pure bias and just as evil as sexism
Any evidence institutions are limiting men's education?
Any evidence that education was ever fair?

--> @TheRealNihilist
The evidence pointed out there
--> @SupaDudz
The evidence pointed out there
You are not a professional on this topic nor have you provided evidence. You have only pointed out claims and I said support them and you are saying they are supported even though all you gave me were your claims. 

--> @TheRealNihilist
The evidence in Dr Franklins point proves this and debunks and liberal theory
--> @SupaDudz
The evidence in Dr Franklins point proves this and debunks and liberal theory
I have yet to see a source since he is not a professional at the topic at hand. So you are lying. 

--> @Athias
Or you can have an involved family. You can have other young adults give you advise. You can send your kid to a therapist that has a young spirit and understands adolescence. With all this knowledge, you teach your kid what to look out for and what to consider with an open mind. I went to public school prepared. It was a testing ground for me. I learned how to be popular, how to get with the skin heads, how to hang out with the emo crowd (even though i almost fought them with the skinheads), how to hang out with the smart kids, the goth kids, the skater kids, surfers, etc... i was all over the place understanding a wide variety of human beings. This has translated into my life like Loki's tongue. If i was home schooled... i would have hated my parents for doing that to me. I don't understand that level of control one would want over their kid(s)... hiding them away from life. Bc life will hit them in the face real hard. You can teach them all you want... but without experiencing it, they will be lost. It's the best time to see individuality. Bc later in life, people start hiding that part of themselves. 

Without preparation however, idk, i may concede home schooling is better. But, i wonder by how much. 
--> @Outplayz, @SupaDudz
@SupaDudz:

The entirety of liberal ideology is premised on Marxist Conflict Theory.

@Outplayz:

Or you can have an involved family.
Typically one of the parents (usually the mother) homeschools the child. "Involved" family comes with the territory.

You can have other young adults give you advise. You can send your kid to a therapist that has a young spirit and understands adolescence. With all this knowledge, you teach your kid what to look out for and what to consider with an open mind. I went to public school prepared. It was a testing ground for me. I learned how to be popular, how to get with the skin heads, how to hang out with the emo crowd (even though i almost fought them with the skinheads), how to hang out with the smart kids, the goth kids, the skater kids, surfers, etc... i was all over the place understanding a wide variety of human beings. This has translated into my life like Loki's tongue.
And to what effect and extent has this experience served your education?

If i was home schooled... i would have hated my parents for doing that to me. I don't understand that level of control one would want over their kid(s)... hiding them away from life.

One either assumes "control" over one's children, or cede it to an outside party; I personally prefer the former. And "hiding them away from life?" Are you under the assumption that home-schooled children lack social lives? Not exposing them to a public school environment is not the same as not exposing them to an environment of their peers at all.

Bc life will hit them in the face real hard.
Life will hit them regardless...

You can teach them all you want... but without experiencing it, they will be lost.
Life is like public school?


It's the best time to see individuality. Bc later in life, people start hiding that part of themselves. 
To the contrary: public school is perhaps the worst place to see individuality as children tend to seek the formation of bonds and camaraderie through conformity. You, yourself, even insinuated this effect when highlighting your experiences with the "skinheads," the "goths," the "emos," the "smart kids," etc. Children also tend to segregate themselves anyway, so the entirety of their "life's experience" in public school would really depend on the group with which they've affiliated. I'd rather expose my children to as many positive influences as I can than to subject them to a dysfunctional public school environment where there'd be indoctrinated with state sponsored ideologies.


Without preparation however, idk, i may concede home schooling is better. But, i wonder by how much. 

It's not a quantitative argument. All one needs to know is that homeschooling is better.


--> @Athias
And to what effect and extent has this experience served your education?
I have two degrees and am doing pretty well. I think that's all that matters. Of course, depending on what a person is going for however. In my case, i didn't need to be the top of my class... i needed to socialize and get connections. It all depends on the goal which i think can be achieved through public school. 

Life is like public school?
Life is like the chaos found in public school, but hidden. People hide who they are as they grow... those impulses are not controlled in HS years so you get to see the wide range of differences. I don't think people that are home-schooled lack a social life... i think they would lack seeing these differences. 

public school is perhaps the worst place to see individuality
I don't think you are understanding my angle. Individuality as in a goth kid dressing up goth. Trust me, as a goth, skater, surfer kid myself... that never goes away. I'm still that person but i hide it bc i'm an "adult" now. Kids in these years don't hide it and let themselves be known. Public school is a great time to see this individuality. Also, it's a great time to learn how to navigate it. 

The way you are talking about home-schooling is very controlling. You control the education, you have slight control on who your kid would be around... all of this seems very pampered. You're kid will never see a skinhead and get the opportunity to observe or even talk to them to see where they are coming from. I was never a skinhead, dressed like people they disliked, and am a different ethnicity. But, still i found a way to become friends with them and see that they are people too. Even uncomfortable at the beginning bc i thought they'd hate me. It's little things like this you are hiding them away from. If i never had that situation happen... i may still be afraid of them, or think they're just trash... or whatever preconceived notion that comes with that territory. Now... the important part is i asked people i trust what does "skinhead" mean. I knew what they stood for and who they were before trying to make friends. I knew i disagreed with them. That is the preparation i'm talking about that you need so you don't get brainwashed or manipulated... that's important too.

All one needs to know is that homeschooling is better.
This is a very broad statement and not nuanced at all. There are situations in which i may agree with you... like i first said, it all comes down to the kids goals. If they want to be musicians, i'd say go to public school. If they want to be effective salesman / business, i'd say go to public school. If the kid wants to be a doctor from a prestige school, i'd say get home schooled. It all depends on the future goals. Some careers don't need what i'm talking about and need what you're talking about... vice versa. I'm not saying home schooling is bad, i actually think it may get you better grades. But even there i'm not sure... i think if one an still crush it in public school with all the distractions, that's a talent within itself. 

So, i disagree with a general statement that home-schooling is "better." That's just not the case in every situation.