Who are you?

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--> @zedvictor4
Who were you would be a past tense.
If you read the topic question it was in present tense. What separates your present self with your past self?
And "a colon precedes an explanation". Yep, as presented.
Yes by explaining what was before the colon. As in Zedvictor: Someone who still refuses to answer a simple question. 
--> @Outplayz
I am the person observing/experiencing this reality in the present moment.
So you weren't you in the past?
But from what i am starting to understand about this person is that black is its primary favorite color 
If black wasn't your favorite color would it still be you?

--> @TheRealNihilist
You have just contradicted your previous reply.

And you also appear to be experiencing colon problems.
--> @zedvictor4
You have just contradicted your previous reply.
How?

And you also appear to be experiencing colon problems.
No I don't.
--> @TheRealNihilist
So you weren't you in the past?
This will relate to the color black example. Ever since i have been asked what my favorite color is, i've chosen black (i liked it before i was asked too). My reasons for this choice haven't changed but they have evolved. I was a different person in the past, but that person that see's beauty in such a color hasn't... that's the "meness" part that i notice has stayed consistent. But, 10 year ago me is a lot different than the person i am now in other ways. For instance i hated pop music, now i like some. Considering that, "were you still you in the past" ... yes and no. There are elements that are still me, and some that aren't the same as past me.

If black wasn't your favorite color would it still be you?
It would depending on many things. If the color black didn't exist, then i'd likely find a color that gives me the same reasons why i like black. It's not so much the color, it's the reasons why i like the color. That can happen with some other colors. Then, there are some extreme examples that i wouldn't be able to tell you like brain injury changing this favorite... is that possible? Idk. Would my reasons also change? Idk. I can tell you that if i am at full capacity of who i am now, it will remain my favorite for the reasons i hold it to be so. 

--> @Outplayz
Your reasons for liking black has evolved. Does that mean you weren't you in the past?

If a full capacity you is you. What were you in the past?

--> @Snoopy
No you're not.
--> @TheRealNihilist
Your reasons for liking black has evolved. Does that mean you weren't you in the past?
They've evolved with knowledge of more things... each reason has just been added to, not deleted... The theme has remained the same; that might be a better word.   

If a full capacity you is you. What were you in the past?
I've never not been at full capacity per se... except for ages that i can't remember. That was my point, i don't know what these off cases would do since i don't remember / i wouldn't remember if i had say dementia or something... but would the theme change if i saw the color black? Idk... it hasn't happened so i wouldn't be able to know the answer to that. I suspect more than not the theme wouldn't change... but i can't know that for obvious reasons.
--> @TheRealNihilist
You got your past and present tenses mixed up.

The past and the future do not exist other than as brain derived reference points. Essentially you are only you, now.

--> @zedvictor4
Essentially you are only you, now.
What I wanted from this topic was to see if that was going to be challenged. 

They've evolved with knowledge of more things... each reason has just been added to, not deleted...
I know that but would you consider your past self lesser than the person who you are now?
I suspect more than not the theme wouldn't change... but i can't know that for obvious reasons. 
I'll stick to your other response since I don't think this is going to go anywhere. 
--> @TheRealNihilist
I know that but would you consider your past self lesser than the person who you are now?
What do you mean by "lesser"? In regards to what we've been discussing so far, especially around the favorite color thing... no, the theme/reasons have remained exactly the same throughout the years. 
--> @Outplayz
What do you mean by "lesser"?
Since you knew less.
Do you consider yourself lesser in the past?
--> @TheRealNihilist
Since you knew less.
Do you consider yourself lesser in the past?
I knew less, but i wouldn't consider myself lesser in regards to this topic. Say i like the color black bc it rebelled against the other colors in my eyes and most other kids were afraid of it; then i learned of bands like Marilyn Manson later bc of that same rebellious/dark/scary side to them... the theme/my reasons are the same, i just learned about the bands later. Who i am is gravitating towards these things, that part is consistent... so i wouldn't call that part lesser. I would call that part the only part that's been consistent throughout the years.  
--> @Outplayz
I knew less, but i wouldn't consider myself lesser in regards to this topic
Wait what?

Knowing less means you knew less then your past self. That is the definition of lesser.
I would call that part the only part that's been consistent throughout the years.  
If you are consistent in your like for black when you are knowing more information. You are not being consistent for your like for black because you just increased your knowledge or whenever you did it. Now you can change this statement to every so often I have consistently improved my knowledge on black. 
What I am is none of your business if you mean the 'real me' beneath it all. That's something only I and reality itself (or god herself) will ever truly know. Even lovers never truly know the 'them within them' of their partner(s). It is impossible to ever fully 100% empathise with someone else, the reason is very simple; you're not them.

This all being said, I am a heavy support of Taoist mentality on this. Some things are not worth worrying about. We're part of a reality and who the 'me' is or what exactly makes 'good' be good are ultimately things not worth looking into; it's philosophy gone too far for one's own mental wellbeing. Some things just are, that's life.
--> @TheRealNihilist
RM--What I am is none of your business if you mean the 'real me' beneath it all.
There is no "beneath it all"  you.

Somtimes we yawn when we see other yawning sometimes not.  Empathy is complicated. Humans are complicated with woman { Xx } being more complex than man { Xy } numerically and synertically.

Some things just are, that's life.
All things 'Are'  not "just are".

Universe 'Is', not just is.

You { we } were Are you in the past may be Are you in the future, even if you{ we } 'Are' dead or we 'Are' dead.

1) Conscious { ? } time

<<< Past <<< Out <<< ( *  i  * ) <<< In <<< Future

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v

2) Arrow-of-time is in the opposite direction

>>> Past >>> Out >>> ( *  i  * ) >>> In >>> Future

The past self is generally speaking a lesser self tho weight/mass can change as can what metaphyiscal-1, mind/intellect/concepts are accessible and those that are not because of brain issues.

The question becomes is Universe ever more or less complex over etrernity of time?
--> @ebuc
Equally complex is the answer I would give.
@RM

What I am is none of your business if you mean the 'real me' beneath it all. 
If you didn't want to actually give me a concrete answer why are you even here at all?
It is impossible to ever fully 100% empathise with someone else, the reason is very simple; you're not them.
Was I supposed to disagree with this?
it's philosophy gone too far for one's own mental wellbeing. Some things just are, that's life.
That is your perspective. My perspective is that it hasn't gone far enough nor do I think it can go far enough for me to be satisfied. 
--> @ebuc
There is no "beneath it all"  you.
No concrete answer. Thanks again for telling me again.
Somtimes we yawn when we see other yawning sometimes not.  Empathy is complicated. Humans are complicated with woman { Xx } being more complex than man { Xy } numerically and synertically. 
Was I supposed to disagree with this? Don't know about the part after empathy if you are right or not.
All things 'Are'  not "just are".

Universe 'Is', not just is.

You { we } were Are you in the past may be Are you in the future, even if you{ we } 'Are' dead or we 'Are' dead.

1) Conscious { ? } time 

<<< Past <<< Out <<< ( *  i  * ) <<< In <<< Future

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v

2) Arrow-of-time is in the opposite direction

>>> Past >>> Out >>> ( *  i  * ) >>> In >>> Future

The past self is generally speaking a lesser self tho weight/mass can change as can what metaphyiscal-1, mind/intellect/concepts are accessible and those that are not because of brain issues.
Don't know what you said here.
The question becomes is Universe ever more or less complex over etrernity of time?
If outside ourselves then I think the universe would have no measure of simple or complex. It would just be what is like playing chess under common rules. Looking during the present time it is complex. Possibly in the future it might be simple and the past even more complex. 
--> @TheRealNihilist
Wait what?

Knowing less means you knew less then your past self. That is the definition of lesser.
I already said i knew less, but knowing less doesn't have much to do with this topic if we are talking about who i am. I never knew the color black before i saw it for the first time and had enough capacity to understand why i like the color. That reason is who i am. That reason/theme has stayed consistent... the theme of all of it is around who i am and the way i see the world.  

If you are consistent in your like for black when you are knowing more information. You are not being consistent for your like for black because you just increased your knowledge or whenever you did it. Now you can change this statement to every so often I have consistently improved my knowledge on black. 
It's the theme, it's not the color. Like i said above, i didn't know the color black at some point... but who i am presently would always pick the color as my favorite bc of who i am (not surprising i picked it when i had the choice). I will always find vampires more appealing than a show like the Simpsons... Vampires are black themed, Simpsons more colorful... that is the theme of the "meness" i find that is consistently who i am. It hasn't changed, it hasn't been any "lesser" in effecting the reality around me as i define it. 
--> @Outplayz
I am tired. Sorry about not responding but by reading what you said we are not really going anywhere.

See you around. 
--> @TheRealNihilist
If outside ourselves then I think the universe would have no measure of simple or complex.
Environment is outside of ourselves. Universe is inclusive of each ever self { "ourselves" }.

It would just be what is like playing chess under common rules. Looking during the present time it is complex. Possibly in the future it might be simple and the past even more complex. 
" U "niverse/" G "od is the most complex set.

Uni-V-erse is the next most complex set.

Woman is the most complex biological life.

Oganesson { transuranium } with atomic number 118 is the most complex element known to humans.

5-fold icosa{20}hedron is the  most complex regular polyhedral symmetry and it, along with 4-fold, 3-fold and 2-fold, are the basis for all symmetries of Universe.










--> @ebuc
Okay.