Girls should be allowed to join the Boyscouts of America

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--> @PressF4Respect
No BOY scouts
--> @Dr.Franklin
*PC mode activate*

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--> @PressF4Respect
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--> @Dr.Franklin
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--> @TheAtheist
You seem to find it hard to put 2 and 2 together.

Now just think, why would the word "scout" in relation to the topic under discussion, be inherently gender specific.
--> @zedvictor4
"Now just think, why would the word "scout" in relation to the topic under discussion, be inherently gender specific."
It wouldn't, because it's not gender specific. "Scout" is a gender-neutral word that can be used for both boys and girls. Find me a single dictionary that says otherwise.

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But seriously, spamming is bad and you should stop.

















--> @TheAtheist
NO its not
--> @TheAtheist
"In relation to the topic under discussion."

The dictionary has nothing to do with it.
--> @zedvictor4
The dictionary has everything to do with it, because you're saying that "scout" is a gender-specific word. And I'm asking you to show me one dictionary where it says that.
--> @TheAtheist
Nope. 

I'm saying that "Scout" is gender specific in relation to the topic under discussion.

That is to say, the "Boy Scouts" was the original organisation set up by Baden Powell in 1908, followed by the "Boy Scouts of America" in 1910.

Doh!


--> @zedvictor4
"Boy Scouts" is specifically referring to scouts for boys.
"Girl Scouts" is specifically referring to scouts for girls.
"Scouts" isn't referring to boys or girls (or anyone else, for that matter).


We should work to equalize both Boyscouts and Girlscouts before even think about merging them. Boys are still young and still will be separate from females and that will cause for a harsher environment. There should be equality between the groups, but this healthy discrimination
--> @bsh1
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#26-30

Can you do something about this?

Thanks in advance. 
--> @TheRealNihilist
Why?
--> @bsh1
So.........?
--> @TheRealNihilist
I saw that the posts were reported. I am not going to publicly discuss whatever actions I choose to take.
Like if you agree
No

--> @ebuc
I don't think he got it because he's autistic.  Just wanted to let you know if you didn't already.
I don’t see why not.  Change the name, solves the issue.
21 days later
Focus on making the girl scouts comparable to the Boy Scouts in badges first. Mixed classes of nature never work out for pure nature and survival skill
--> @SupaDudz
Badges are just pretty things.

So real comparability:
How much politically correct diatribe will need be spewed before we can really get over the old penis and vagina thing?
--> @Swagnarok
Some objections:

1. The Boy Scouts have always been a boys' space.
False. "Scouting" as an organization across the world has been co-ed for decades, the US is lagging behind in this area. Even when it was first generated, girls were not dissuaded from Scouting. The segregation implemented then was simply an extension of the general gender segregation of society, nothing to do with scouts itself.
Where they can be themselves without being sh*tted on by society for it.
False. Boys of that age are generally socializing with other boys their age anyway. Any social criticism and judgement they receive is going to be by their male peers which doesn't go away in Scouts. Scouts provides no insulation for this.

If girls are allowed in, eventually you'll have woman scoutmasters who'll approach scouting from a woman's perspective, which typically means harshly prohibiting any and all rough play, which can be good and healthy for boys and also a lot of fun depending on how it's done.
Baseless speculation.

2. Many such guys, being still young and dominated by their hormones, will excessively try to attract the attention of a female scout.
Dubious in theory and disproven in practice where co-ed scouting already exists.

Some of them will cross the line into harassment or even worse. At this point, it'll be reported on by the media, and the response, of course, will be to sh*t on boys for being their natural selves in what's supposed to be a boys' space.
False. Harassing girls (or worse) is not boys "being their natural selves." Also false that Scouts is "supposed to be a boy's space." As stated, the ideals and purpose of Scouting is gender neutral. The gender segregation (also racial segregation) was simply a result of the segregation of general society, not a mechanism implementing by Scouting.

3. Related to the second point, many such guys will be distracted by a pretty girl and not take scouting as seriously.
False. Not a problem in practice where it exists, or in any other co-ed environment (such as school).

If the response to this, of course, is to blame the boys in question for being distractable, then once again they'll be sh*tting on boys for being their natural selves in what's supposed to be a boys' space.
Scouting isn't "supposed to be a boys' space."

--> @drafterman
Scouting isn't "supposed to be boys' space."

Boy Scouts and subsequently Boy Scouts of America.

The origins of the Scout movement was solely for boys.

Girl Guides was the original equivalent.


But, let's ditch the old sexist propaganda.

And regroup, rename and make a good wholesome politically correct fresh start.

I propose:
Gender Neutral Infantry.


--> @zedvictor4
Boy Scouts and subsequently Boy Scouts of America.

The origins of the Scout movement was solely for boys.

Girl Guides was the original equivalent.
As I said (several times), this was merely an extension of the general societal gender segregation. Indeed, Baden Powell stated that Girls can be Scouts as well. There is nothing about the principles of Scouting that is inherently male.

But, let's ditch the old sexist propaganda.

And regroup, rename and make a good wholesome politically correct fresh start.

I propose:
Gender Neutral Infantry.
People whine about the name too much. "Boy Scouts of America" is just the name of a company (and hard to change, for that reason). There is no reason to change the name.