Modern art is a total scam

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I could literally recreate every single picture in milliseconds. I don't care about the fake "emotion" they put into it, or the amount of "skill" it takes to splash paint like a 2 year old.

Real art takes skill, and possibly weeks of painting.

Change my mind.
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While I 100% agree with you on this I'm going to change your mind anyways.

Modern art usually has much more than meets the eye. For example, in a museum of modern art, I saw 3 white canvases that I scoffed at, but upon reading the caption of the painting, I realized how the whole canvas was painted in white and made out to be a square shape to represent the foundation of all art.
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I also notice how people say "you gotta see the finer details or the whole picture"

Bullshit.

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Yes, if you're confused you should step back and look at the whole picture. (Hint: if it's a sculpture you might want to look on the "backside")
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I agree. Any artist who wants to explore concepts by splashing paint is lazy. Real masters can paint beautiful masterpieces that explore the concepts in modern art far better.
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Here's a good video showing how little talent is required for modern art. A political pundit, a reporter, a two-year-old, and a five-year-old made paintings that many people thought were genuine works of art. This is why I don't take modern art seriously.
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lol, that was amazing
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Thank you for proving my point!
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You're welcome!
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LMAO awesome video. My favorite part was where the guy was 'explaining' it halfway through and had to step forward so the guy he was talking to couldn't see him almost laughing.
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Ok well that is a bit lazy modern art. I have seen modern art that is better

The Art Museum in Chicago has some brilliant displays of Modern Art. It just depends on location and the resources. Canada ain't an artisitic country
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That art is a bit shit lmao I could tell was....by 2yr old
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To be clear, I hate modern art.
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I am an artistic person. Beauty
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I could literally recreate every single picture in milliseconds. I don't care about the fake "emotion" they put into it, or the amount of "skill" it takes to splash paint like a 2 year old.

Real art takes skill, and possibly weeks of painting.

Change my mind.

I get the impression that Abstract Expressionism is the sum of Modern Art for you, when in fact that was about 70 years ago now.

I will happily defend Abstract Expressionism as art, performance art as art, street art, pop art, cooking, fashion, graffiti, rap but I get the strong impression you have not even thought about how Modern Art is defined or ought to be defined.  What are you talking about when you say "modern art"?


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Here is probably the most famous act of "modern art" from last year.  Since the original painting was made in 2006 and the shredder frame was created at least a few years ago, it can be fairly said that this work took 13 years to make. Since the power of the art relies on Banksy's fame and anonymity and reputation for surprise and ability to sell works for millions of dollars your claim that any two year old could replicate this work is entirely refuted.


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that was pretty funny, it didn't shred the whole piece tho :(
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No- and Banksy said that he practiced it a few times and it always shredded complete.  SNAFU
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I'll guess this shredded piece is worth more now than the non-shredded version then?
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Money magazine estimates the $1.4 million dollar value doubled at the moment of destruction  Let's see a 2 year old pull that off.
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I'm not going exact on these definitions here, but modern art would be something that you would think you could recreate. Like lines or something.

Also I know about the Girl with the Red Balloon and I think that is the dumbest thing ever.

Bad art, selling for lots. Not that art failed to get destroyed, and now it's selling for more.

They even created fake tags associated like "beauty comes from destruction" or something ridiculous like that.

Total scam.
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I am an artistic person. Beauty
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modern art would be something that you would think you could recreate.
I would think I could recreate a buttermilk biscuit.  Is a buttermilk biscuit therefore art?

Also I know about the Girl with the Red Balloon and I think that is the dumbest thing ever.
hmm.  And dumb aint art?  Is art only smart?

They even created fake tags associated like "beauty comes from destruction" or something ridiculous like that.
What is fake about "beauty comes from destruction?"  W. B. Yeats wrote about the 'terrible beauty" born from the bloody suppression and mass execution of Irish Rebels in the midst of WW1.  Was that a ridiculous "fake tag"?  Why?

Easter, 1916
I have met them at close of day   
Coming with vivid faces
From counter or desk among grey   
Eighteenth-century houses.
I have passed with a nod of the head   
Or polite meaningless words,   
Or have lingered awhile and said   
Polite meaningless words,
And thought before I had done   
Of a mocking tale or a gibe   
To please a companion
Around the fire at the club,   
Being certain that they and I   
But lived where motley is worn:   
All changed, changed utterly:   
A terrible beauty is born.

That woman's days were spent   
In ignorant good-will,
Her nights in argument
Until her voice grew shrill.
What voice more sweet than hers   
When, young and beautiful,   
She rode to harriers?
This man had kept a school   
And rode our wingèd horse;   
This other his helper and friend   
Was coming into his force;
He might have won fame in the end,   
So sensitive his nature seemed,   
So daring and sweet his thought.
This other man I had dreamed
A drunken, vainglorious lout.
He had done most bitter wrong
To some who are near my heart,   
Yet I number him in the song;
He, too, has resigned his part
In the casual comedy;
He, too, has been changed in his turn,   
Transformed utterly:
A terrible beauty is born.

Hearts with one purpose alone   
Through summer and winter seem   
Enchanted to a stone
To trouble the living stream.
The horse that comes from the road,   
The rider, the birds that range   
From cloud to tumbling cloud,   
Minute by minute they change;   
A shadow of cloud on the stream   
Changes minute by minute;   
A horse-hoof slides on the brim,   
And a horse plashes within it;   
The long-legged moor-hens dive,   
And hens to moor-cocks call;   
Minute by minute they live:   
The stone's in the midst of all.

Too long a sacrifice
Can make a stone of the heart.   
O when may it suffice?
That is Heaven's part, our part   
To murmur name upon name,   
As a mother names her child   
When sleep at last has come   
On limbs that had run wild.   
What is it but nightfall?
No, no, not night but death;   
Was it needless death after all?
For England may keep faith   
For all that is done and said.   
We know their dream; enough
To know they dreamed and are dead;   
And what if excess of love   
Bewildered them till they died?   
I write it out in a verse—
MacDonagh and MacBride   
And Connolly and Pearse
Now and in time to be,
Wherever green is worn,
Are changed, changed utterly:   
A terrible beauty is born.

Is Yeats art?  I think so.
Is Yeats modern?  I think so.

Banksy made a million dollars but he also added an Easter Egg that gave his patron money back two-fold.  Scam implies that buyer got less than true value.  How does doubling the value support the claim of "scam"?


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I'm not saying a 2-year old could recreate the girl with the red balloon. I thought that the piece looked very nice. The whole concept I'm not getting is how putting a painting through a shredder and calling it modern art makes it worth more. Is it cause it's like a bold move or something? The art itself won't be famous for how it looks then, it'll only be famous for its history.

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And nice poem
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I can't think of any famous art that is not more famous for its story than for its appearance.  Let's take the Mona Lisa- is it really the most amazing portrait of a pale lady in a brown dress that you've ever seen or is it famous because Napoleon made a big deal of hanging it up in his bedroom then survived multiple thefts, attacks, wars, etc as the painting grew more and more famous?

Is James Joyce's Ulysses truly the most fascinating work of English literature ever written or is it famous because it exploded the Western 20th Century's perception of pornography?

Is Neil Diamond's "Sweet Caroline" famous because it is such an amazing tribute to Caroline Kennedy or because Red Sox fans have been singing it at every game since 1997?

Few things are famous for merit or beauty- most things are famous for the story that comes with them.

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There's plenty of modern art that has plenty of effort put in. Even if it's minimalist, it may take effort just to think of the idea. 

Don't be snobby or gatekeeping about art. These are typically people who are simply trying to express themselves.
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Also i think your referring to postmodern art
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Art's main point isn't history though, it's how it looks like. If you want to learn history become a historian. And the Mona Lisa was famous because it was one of the first portraits of someone not noble.