Virt's Mafia: Endgame

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Welcome to the Virt's Mafia endgame!

Mafia wins! Congratulations!

Mafia

Ragnar: Mafia Goon
Warren42: Mafia Goon

Town

Lunatic: Vig
Everyone else: Vanilla town

NIGHT ACTIONS

NP1

Lunatic- kill speed
Mafia - Kill Oro


NP2

Lunatic - Kill warren
Mafia - Kill drafterman

NP3

Lunatic - No action
Mafia - Kill lunatic

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Overall, I'm really pleased as to how well this game went. Everyone was fairly active and respectful. This was my first time in more than a year hosting a manual game like this. MU has me spoiled where I don't have to do vote counts. 

MVPs

Mafia: Ragnar. Wow, I am really impressed by how well Ragnar played. Although this was one of his first games, he really impressed me and was able to fool the town. Honestly, if I was in the game, he'd probably would have been one of my top town reads. Great job ragnar!

Town: Drafterman. Drafterman really did a great job keeping the town together. His thought process was really good and made an enjoyable game. 

Mod notes for the future

Please, whatever you do, don't hammer yourself, especially when we're only 3 hours into the game phase. 

 






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@Barney
gg Ragnar you and warren did a good job.

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I wish Press was more active to give better reads.
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@David
Good set-up virt. Nice, clean, and simple.
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@drafterman
Thank you, my friend. I've become a fan of open setups like this. 
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Mafia does not win yet:
With 3 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Press needs to vote for Press, otherwise we have to wait until nighttime, at which point Mafia might or might not enact a night kill. 😃
Oh course with me now scum confirmed, Press and Drafter could VTL me, but they would need to convince me to join that motion. 😁

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Good game all. Lunatic I’m a little surprised you still shot me after Grey flipped town, but obviously it was the right move so well done.

Ragnar excellent job finishing the game off especially since drafter came back, it was a pleasure working with you!
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Warren I scum read you for reasons independent of greyparrot affiliation, but I couldnt delve into those at the time without hinting knowledge of being vigilante lol
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Gg Warren and ragnar.
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@David
Thanks for the game, hope you join us for more in the future.
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lol, I was sure that town was going to win anyway. And I didn't really know who to lynch.

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@warren42
Nice dude
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@Speedrace
Wtf were you thinking?
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@drafterman
It was an attempt to attract the NK, didn't work

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@Speedrace
Well, it did...
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I called Ragnar as Mafia!!!!! I'm so proud of myself
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@drafterman
No because Lunatic vig'd me
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@Speedrace
I called Ragnar as Mafia!!!!! I'm so proud of myself
Anything that actually gave it away, or like my lynch the last to arrive thing nearly catching Warren, was it a lucky guess?
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@Barney
Your play was overall kinda cold? I dunno how to explain it. I think seeing you as Mafia when I was a mod gave me insight
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@Speedrace
Intuition can be a powerful thing.

One thing I did find odd was that it got argued me not VTLing you in response for that was scummy, but the next day someone casting an OMGYS vote was also scummy. It seems like a bit of a continuous Rorschach test, of people seeing what they want to see.

FYI, I genuinely did believe you. Warren had doubts. Either way, killing the an exposed vig in NP1 would not be beneficial (it would not have saved my life, and you being confirmed town would not guarantee future wise kills).
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@Greyparrot
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So what exactly did the vanilla town PM say?
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@Barney
Gotcha
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@Speedrace
No because Lunatic vig'd me
Btw, I had somewhat of a feeling you were trying to draw the NK, however, I couldn't not kill you based on a "hope he is not mafia" whim lol. I definitely didn't think you were dumb enough to do that as mafia, but I didn't wanna play around with WIFOM too much.

I actually was more worried that you knew who I was in Dp1 based on me slipping or something when I asked pie what he would do as vig, so I was ultra paranoid I was gonna die NP1 and I was buddying you to see if you were serious about the ragnar lynch cuz if you ended up being mafia I could read into ragnar. Your persistance on the lynch made me townread ragnar though. Anyways, I liked the thinking about your action, but I am just a bit too paranoid I guess to risk plays like that lol. I also know you are clever as scum, and it just seemed to risky to let you live. I told myself I had no real choice but to kill you.
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"I'm actually considering the possibility speed is town lol but I can't not kill him"

This is an actual message I sent the mod lol
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@Lunatic
Lolll welp! I don't blame you
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No joke, this is what my PM said:
12.03.2019 4:27PM
Hi speedrace! You're vanilla town! You win with town. You have your voice and your vote. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/3311/virts-mafia-dp1

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@PressF4Respect
Yeah, about that. The rest of the PMs read You're vanilla town! You win with town. You have your voice and your vote.

I mistakingly posted speedrace with a copy and paste error. I was kinda biting my tongue and hoping it wouldn't ruin the game. 
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@David
Nah, it is on town if we are relying on PM structure to confirm anyone. It's not only bad logic, it's almost gamebreaking to confirm players using PM structure. People did this on DDO a lot, then I noticed mods would either give scum the town PM structure, or would write out roles differently purposely so this logic would be avoided. 


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@Lunatic
Yeah, that's probably what I'll do moving forward
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@David
That's ok. I was just confused lol