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He’s not even American, no use arguing with him. He’s entitled to his opinion, but he can’t legally act on it.
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Will you fix it by voting for a numpty that thinks suggesting to a World audience that the consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus problem, is what it takes to be a President. 
Yep you probably will.
So many errors...
1. Trump is not a numpty.
2. He did not say consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus.
3. He is already President.
4. Your opinion is not fact.

Though on reflection and in comparison to a lot of his forebears. he hasn't made any notable World affecting cock-up decisions.
No. All the doom and gloom predictions of the liberal left (you) have been proven wrong. But as we know, reality doesn't affect your adherence to dogma.

i suppose that we should  be grateful for Melania and also that he doesn't have a sister like Kim Yo-jong.
I'm grateful that he got the deadbeat Europeans to pay their fair share for their own defence, and for getting minority unemployment to go down, and for defending religious rights, and for curbing immigration of terrorists and criminals into the country, and for exposing the deep state, and for putting people with functioning brains on the Supreme Court. Oh, and I quite like Melania too.

As they say....Behind every good man.
That good man will be re-elected in Nov. And you liberal snowflakes will have another round of teeth gnashing. It will be fun!
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2. He did not say consumption of household disinfectant might be a solution to the coronavirus.
???

What is your interpretation of this then?

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
"So it'd be interesting to check that."

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It needs no interpretation if one is TDS free.

Trump said, "...can do something like that.." Something like what?
"knocks" out the virus inside the body.

Who wouldn't want something that knocks out the virus inside the body? How is it terrible to wonder about that?

He did not say to ingest disinfectant. He even said "with a doctor" under medical supervision. Everything Trump says is twisted by libtards using the most asinine interpretations, and the sane majority of the nation just laughs at their derangement.

Heard about the crime spree in several US cities? Trump told us about that coming. Libtards called him silly then too. November is coming. Liberals are dumb, and full of terrors.
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Yep, will be another fun packed and amusing 4 years.

And apologies, I didn't realise you were deaf......If you could hear some of the dumb ass stuff that Donald comes out with you would be in stitches also.
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Yep, will be another fun packed and amusing 4 years.
Do liberals usually cry and moan at fun packed and amusing things?

And apologies, I didn't realise you were deaf.....
No worries, I don't hold your IQ against you either.

If you could hear some of the dumb ass stuff that Donald comes out with you would be in stitches also.
Oh, we are all laughing. Only in November, some of you laughing now will realize that we were laughing AT you.

An un-pc President, and perpetually outraged liberal progressive snowflakes. It'll be like a 4 year Christmas holiday!
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Don't get me wrong....Despite all his shenanigans and gaffs, his ineffectiveness is perhaps something to be grateful for.....Let's hope that things continue that way.

Kanye West next time....Hey?
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I was asking a sarcastic, & a very sarcastic question, to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it.
Does this quote from Trump change your previous interpretation?
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Why would it?

Look man. I don't really care that you have TDS. And I know the futility of trying to get a liberal suffering under TDS to actually answer questions in order to show him how he's deranged.

I'm not a progressive liberal, so I do not need people with different political beliefs than me to change. You are welcome to eat meat, or sugar. I don't want you to stop smoking, I don't want to take away your guns. I do not want to force you to pay for abortions. I do not want to force you to refer to men as "she". You are welcome to my college campus to speak on any topic you like.

Trump has trolled you guys for nearly 4 years, and you're so wrapped up in your social justice warriorhood, you don't get it. He's clowning you. Stop trying to clone everyone into little liberal lemmings. People will resist looniness.
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Well your previous post seems to claim that Trump's statements around injections referred to something in general that could "knock out the virus inside the body" rather than disinfectants specifically.

However Trump's later quote seems to show that disinfectants on the inside was the correct interpretation. 
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Trump wondered if it would not be great if we could get something inside the body that treated the virus like disinfectants do. Knock them out. He is not a doctor, and was not pretending to be one. He was not offering medical advice. He was simply wondering like any leader would be at watching his fellow countrymen die.

I listened to the panic porn of the BBC, MSNBC and CNN as they went into a froth faking their interpretation for what Trump said. It obviously worked on some of you, because even the actual transcript doesn't jar you back to sanity.

Trump's statements around injections referred to something in general that could "knock out the virus inside the body"
Trump's comment referred to something that had a similar effect on the virus as disinfectants do. What is so strange or weird about that? He did not say anyone should ingest anything. He suggested it should be under proper medical supervision. What exactly is your issue?

Trump's later quote seems to show that disinfectants on the inside was the correct interpretation. 
Trump wondered if we could devise something that had the same effect inside the body as disinfectants do outside. I would suggest that such wonderings are at the root of all medical advances.

Your TDS, bolstered by the fake news MSM needs your narrative to be true. Why?

The sad thing is, even if Trump was ignorant and or wrong, his Intent was honorable. He desperately wants people to be well. But all the perpetually outraged liberals see is their hatred of Trump. They care more about hating Trump than the lives of real people.

What are you and the fake news media trying to prove? That Trump isn't a doctor? We know. That Trump is ignorant? How does that help the country? People are dying by the thousands and you lot are franticly consumed with an off the cuff wondering of a distraught leader.

How do you not see the derangement?
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I agree that pondering on things that have similar effects as disinfectants do is a good if naive thing.

So why did he backtrack over his statements and label them as sarcasm if this was his intent?

He desperately wants people to be well.
So he holds a rally in the midst of a pandemic and refuses wear a mask?
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So why did he backtrack over his statements and label them as sarcasm if this was his intent?
Because Trump knows nothing he could say, and I do mean absolutely nothing, would satisfy the fake news media. He was again trolling you. We who aren't suffering under TDS know this, and we are greatly entertained. He didn't backtrack. What he said meshed with my first answer to you. You think he "backtracked" because you think your interpretation was correct. It wasn't. So, yes, his statement was not what YOU thought he first said, but he can only back tract from his position, not from the one YOU THOUGHT was his position.

So he holds a rally in the midst of a pandemic and refuses wear a mask?
Where is your righteous indignation when BLM comes out end mass during demonstrations? How many people get close to Trump at rallies? Notice now that its the young getting infected? But as always, your laser-like focus is on one guy not wearing a mask, as you ignore thousands roaming the streets "in the midst of a pandemic," and now causing infection rates to spike.

And again, Trump is not a progressive liberal. He doesn't want to force everyone else into his political opinion. But you do. Don't you guys ever tire of being outraged over everything? How are you able to sustain such a constantly high level of petty outrage?

Trump knows that no matter what he says, the libtards will twist and misrepresent it, so he simply trolls the MSM. On twitter, he can say what he wants without it going through the libtards filter. Other times, he just tosses the libs for lolz.

Go, hate Trump and prosper. I think he's the best President we've had since Reagan. And he may prove to be greater. Go vote for Biden. You'll lose, but this is America, even losers get a vote.
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Because Trump knows nothing he could say, and I do mean absolutely nothing, would satisfy the fake news media. He was again trolling you. We who aren't suffering under TDS know this, and we are greatly entertained. He didn't backtrack. What he said meshed with my first answer to you. You think he "backtracked" because you think your interpretation was correct. It wasn't. So, yes, his statement was not what YOU thought he first said, but he can only back tract from his position, not from the one YOU THOUGHT was his position.
So in otherwords, you've made up what you think his intentions are, and then you've made up what you think his clarification towards his intentions are? Why not just accept words as they appear? It must be difficult in life to treat everything with such hostile scrutiny.

Where is your righteous indignation when BLM comes out end mass during demonstrations? How many people get close to Trump at rallies? Notice now that its the young getting infected? But as always, your laser-like focus is on one guy not wearing a mask, as you ignore thousands roaming the streets "in the midst of a pandemic," and now causing infection rates to spike.
I was only pointing out that your assertion that trump "desperately wants people to be well" is obviously false without any additional qualifiers. Frankly, I'm surprised that you've even made the claim. I was always under the assumption that trump supporters looked towards his actions rather than his rhetoric. To what do you base your support on when you apparently ignore both? 

And again, Trump is not a progressive liberal. He doesn't want to force everyone else into his political opinion. But you do. Don't you guys ever tire of being outraged over everything? How are you able to sustain such a constantly high level of petty outrage?
What a silly thing to say. I think you're confusing discourse with forcing people into political opinions.


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So in otherwords, you've made up what you think his intentions are, and then you've made up what you think his clarification towards his intentions are?
No. You do that. I just take what he says.

Why not just accept words as they appear?
I do. Your TDS makes you see what's not there.

It must be difficult in life to treat everything with such hostile scrutiny.
What am I treating with hostile scrutiny? Your take on what he said? That's "everything"? It isn't hostile scrutiny. I simply dismiss what you say because I have his actual words and it is clear he did not say what you claim he said. That's why you could not answer any of the questions in my posts to you. I answered all of yours.

I was only pointing out that your assertion that trump "desperately wants people to be well" is obviously false without any additional qualifiers. 
Do the BLM demonstrators want people to be well?

I was always under the assumption that trump supporters looked towards his actions rather than his rhetoric. To what do you base your support on when you apparently ignore both?
The only thing you're always under is TDS. Here, you will dodge, but it will still cause you some cognitive dissonance. Post the sentence where Trump said we should ingest disinfectants. See? You can't do it, and yet, you think it. I bet you're easily hypnotizable.

I think you're confusing discourse with forcing people into political opinions.
You want Trump to wear a mask. I can guess you want Brazilians to stop cutting down trees in the Amazon rain forest. You want kids to stop drinking colas. You want other people to pay for abortions. You want all immigrants to be allowed into the country. You want me to embrace homosexuality. You want everyone to be vegetarian. You want our guns confiscated. You want us to refer to men as "she".

Is that discourse or trying to force people into your political opinions? Are laws against " hate speech" discourse? Is forcing us to pay for your abortion discourse?

It's one thing to think electric cars are better for the environment, it's yet another thing to want to ban my car and close down all petrol companies. What did I miss?

Believe what you like, but why must you liberals use laws, social coercion, and cancel culture to force others to bend to your political opinions?
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No. You do that. I just take what he says.
... and then apply your own subjective reasoning. It's perfectly fine to do this. But obviously it's nicer if you're honest that you do it.

I do. Your TDS makes you see what's not there.
You know, no one minds that you're riddled with reverse-TDS because it's a valid view nonetheless. It's really just the intellectual dishonesty.

Do the BLM demonstrators want people to be well?
What does this have to do with the assertion that trump "desperately wants people to be well"?

The only thing you're always under is TDS. Here, you will dodge, but it will still cause you some cognitive dissonance. Post the sentence where Trump said we should ingest disinfectants. See? You can't do it, and yet, you think it. I bet you're easily hypnotizable.
Perhaps post the post where I made the claim that he did.

Is that discourse or trying to force people into your political opinions? Are laws against " hate speech" discourse? Is forcing us to pay for your abortion discourse?
I would classify what you said as closer to complete gibberish given that I've made none of those claims or have stated none of those positions. You claim that you regard words as they are. Perhaps you should practice what you preach?
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...obviously it's nicer if you're honest that you do it.
Yes. The conservative is always lying. Only you can never show his lie, and when he asks you pointed questions, you dodge answering. One of us is being dishonest true.

It's really just the intellectual dishonesty.
Yet I can and have answered all your questions and you've dodged answering mine. Ducking questions is a classic sign of dishonesty. But I will still beat you, even if you run away from my questions.

Do the BLM demonstrators want people to be well?

What does this have to do with the assertion that trump "desperately wants people to be well"?
I want to show your hypocritical dishonesty. Do you condemn BLM demonstrators for the same behavior you're condemning Trump for? No, you don't. So you had to dodge that question. But the Gentle Reader sees you dodge. That is all I need.

Perhaps post the post where I made the claim that he did.
I saw your loony interpretation, I did not see Trump say it. Which is why you dodge again.

I've made none of those claims or have stated none of those positions.
In other threads you have. You are a blazing liberal. Even now, you can't deny any of those positions. And again, you dodged every question.

Why you snowflakes think dodging questions is a winning ploy, I'll never know. If this was court, you would be forced to answer, but as I said, I'll beat you anyway. Readers will form their own beliefs on why you will not answer question.

But anyone with experience of liberals will know its because your worldview is riddled with contradictions and irrationality, and thus cannot afford to allow it to be examined.

You won't answer questions, so I see no value in continuing this exchange. I've beat you on the topic. Yes, I know you'll disagree even as you dodge questions. Eh.
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Yes. The conservative is always lying. Only you can never show his lie, and when he asks you pointed questions, you dodge answering. One of us is being dishonest true.
Not at all. I evaluate people on a per case basis. In your case, you've directly lied and dodged the same question for several posts now. This indicates that you are dishonest.

Yet I can and have answered all your questions and you've dodged answering mine. Ducking questions is a classic sign of dishonesty. But I will still beat you, even if you run away from my questions.

Do the BLM demonstrators want people to be well?
Except for the central question that you have continuously dodged. Does trump "desperately want people be well" given his callous approach to Covid-19?

I want to show your hypocritical dishonesty. Do you condemn BLM demonstrators for the same behavior you're condemning Trump for? No, you don't. So you had to dodge that question. But the Gentle Reader sees you dodge. That is all I need.
What a strange way of thinking. To profess you look to words as they appear, when in this thread, out tumbles words as they do not. I would call you a hypocrite but you would obviously already know this given that you are a master of detecting hypocritical behaviour.
I saw your loony interpretation, I did not see Trump say it. Which is why you dodge again.
In other words, I did not say it.
In other threads you have. You are a blazing liberal. Even now, you can't deny any of those positions. And again, you dodged every question.
Nice copout. Or in otherwords, I have not and you cannot provide evidence against it. 


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In your case, you've directly lied and dodged the same question for several posts now. This indicates that you are dishonest.
First, you have answered none of my questions. I have told no lies, unless you believe lies are whatever contradicts you. Like all liberals, you are a hypocrite. You will ignore thousands of libtards roaming the streets and then have a cow over Trump not wearing a mast at a rally.

Does trump "desperately want people be well" given his callous approach to Covid-19?
My answer was, "Trump desperately want people to be well." You add in your personal opinion of  a "callous approach to Covid-19" and then pretend your opinion is fact. Trumps approach has not been callous. Your TDS is what makes you confuse your opinion for fact.

I would call you a hypocrite....
It would not help you if you did. The hypocrisy of the left about excusing demonstrations while trying to condemn Trump is common knowledge.

...but you would obviously already know this given that you are a master of detecting hypocritical behaviour.
Dealing with libtards makes one a master of detecting hypocritical behaviour quickly.

I saw your loony interpretation, I did not see Trump say it. Which is why you dodge again.

In other words, I did not say it.
You could not. Trump did not sat anyone should ingest disinfectants, and you cannot post where he said so. The post where you made that false claim has your loony interpretation yes, but it doesn't contain any comment from Trump saying people should ingest disinfectants. So did not say it, yet you claimed it. That, my morality challenged friend, is commonly referred to as a lie.

Nice copout. Or in other words, I have not and you cannot provide evidence against it. 
You have not what? You called yourself a liberal, does that not mean you subscribe to the touchstone positions of liberalism? Words mean things slick.

(Have you noticed Gentle Reader, that liberals tend to hide their true full positions during debates?)
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First, you have answered none of my questions. I have told no lies, unless you believe lies are whatever contradicts you. Like all liberals, you are a hypocrite. You will ignore thousands of libtards roaming the streets and then have a cow over Trump not wearing a mast at a rally.
Whataboutism isn't a valid line of questioning and is summarily dismissed. If you want to discuss matters not relating to Trump, open up a thread and ping me in it.

My answer was, "Trump desperately want people to be well." You add in your personal opinion of  a "callous approach to Covid-19" and then pretend your opinion is fact. Trumps approach has not been callous. Your TDS is what makes you confuse your opinion for fact.
In other-words you have once again dodged the question. Unfortunately it looks like your reverse TDS is too far gone.

You could not. Trump did not sat anyone should ingest disinfectants, and you cannot post where he said so. The post where you made that false claim has your loony interpretation yes, but it doesn't contain any comment from Trump saying people should ingest disinfectants. So did not say it, yet you claimed it. That, my morality challenged friend, is commonly referred to as a lie.
I did not ask for false drivel. If you are confused about what I claimed, my claim is only a page back.

You have not what? You called yourself a liberal, does that not mean you subscribe to the touchstone positions of liberalism? Words mean things slick.
More false drivel. Where did I call myself a liberal?
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Whataboutism isn't a valid line of questioning and is summarily dismissed. If
Your hypocrisy leaves you no option.

In other-words you have once again dodged the question.
In what other words? My answer was, "Trump desperately wants people to be well." You add in your personal opinion of  a "callous approach to Covid-19" and then pretend your opinion is fact. Trumps approach has not been callous. Your TDS is what makes you confuse your opinion for fact. You silly, "have you stopped beating your wife" ploy will not work on me. Give me facts, not opinions.

If you are confused about what I claimed, my claim is only a page back.
Please put the paddles back when you are through back-paddling.

Where did I call myself a liberal?
Hitler never called himself an anti-semite either. But his beliefs and behavior betrayed him.
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Your hypocrisy leaves you no option.
Kindly address that which has substance. Again, you seem to be inventing positions for me. While these positions are cute to ridicule, I worry about the amount of somersaults that your head must go through to concoct them.

Give me facts, not opinions.
The facts have been as they are since last uttered and yet remain unaddressed. Trump does not wear a mask and held a rally. 

Please put the paddles back when you are through back-paddling.
More pointless drivel. The evidence lies but a page back, or it would if it did not reveal your dishonesty.

Hitler never called himself an anti-semite either. But his beliefs and behavior betrayed him.
Your opinions are not facts. I do not give a whit for your fantastical suppositions. 
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Give me facts, not opinions.

Trump does not wear a mask and held a rally. 
That is not in contention Cletus. What is not a fact is your opinion you form from this fact that Trump doesn't care for people. When challenged to support your hypocritical reasoning with a much worse, but similar example of liberals not observing social distancing and holding demonstrations, you ran away like a scared little girl. I want facts without your tired hypocrisy tied to them.

Hitler never called himself an anti-semite either. But his beliefs and behavior betrayed him.

Your opinions are not facts. 
Check his writings and speeches, they are freely available on the net. Hitler never called himself an anti-semite. That is a fact. He was judged an anti-semite by his beliefs and behavior. Just as I can read your posts to discern your beliefs and behavior. You, my reality challenged friend, are a liberal with a terminal case of TDS.

I do not give a whit for your fantastical suppositions.
That you're a liberal is not fantastical. And I don't care one whit for what you don't give a whit about. Calling the truth "supposition" does not change it at all. Truth is stubborn that way.

Here's a bit of free advice dusty. After you lose the argument, get off the dead horse. Beating it now won't get you any further.
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That is not in contention Cletus. What is not a fact is your opinion you form from this fact that Trump doesn't care for people. When challenged to support your hypocritical reasoning with a much worse, but similar example of liberals not observing social distancing and holding demonstrations, you ran away like a scared little girl. I want facts without your tired hypocrisy tied to them.
Again you dodge. Again you bring forth the whataboutism. What tired talking points they are.

Check his writings and speeches, they are freely available on the net. Hitler never called himself an anti-semite. That is a fact. He was judged an anti-semite by his beliefs and behavior. Just as I can read your posts to discern your beliefs and behavior. You, my reality challenged friend, are a liberal with a terminal case of TDS.
Your judgements are pure codswallop and baseless in nature in the light of this one inalienable truth: Hitler was the ultimate troll.

That you're a liberal is not fantastical. And I don't care one whit for what you don't give a whit about. Calling the truth "supposition" does not change it at all. Truth is stubborn that way.
It is fantastical of the most disturbing nature. The fact that you think you can apply your opinions upon me as if they were factual is disturbing enough. That it debases your own philosophies makes it that much worse
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Again you dodge. 
I answered you. Saying I dodge means nothing. Everyone reading knows I did. Everyone not suffering from TDS anyway.

You keep telling your opinions as if they matter. Trump cares about Americans. That is why he won. The voters could see that no one else did because all of them were pushing political correct hypocrisy.

He will win again in November, and you will be left with 4 more years of your petty butthurt.

Remember, tell your antifa friends to wear masks when they go to burn down churches and loot stores,.....if logical consistency means anything to you.
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I answered you. Saying I dodge means nothing. Everyone reading knows I did. Everyone not suffering from TDS anyway.
No one's reading this steaming turd of an exchange. But if someone were to, they would recognise you've been dodging anything of meaningful substance since the very beginning.

You keep telling your opinions as if they matter. Trump cares about Americans. That is why he won. The voters could see that no one else did because all of them were pushing political correct hypocrisy.
Most influential person in the country refusing to be a role model for wearing a mask for no reason other than vanity
Holding a rally in a pandemic despite the known risks of transmission
Leader of the nation with the worst pandemic response among 1st world nations, accounting for nearly 20% of total covid-19 deaths worldwide despite being the richest country on the planet.

Yep. He certainly cares about Americans.
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@dustryder
No one's reading this steaming turd of an exchange.
Speak for yourself. I get readers. If you ever have a dead thread, call me and my presence will bring readers. The trick is to be entertaining instead of snooty.

Most influential person in the country refusing to be a role model for wearing a mask for no reason other than vanity
It is your TDS that makes you believe you know his reason.

Holding a demostration in a pandemic despite the known risks of transmission
Corrected that for ya hypo.

Leader of the nation with the worst pandemic response among 1st world nations, accounting for nearly 20% of total covid-19 deaths worldwide despite being the richest country on the planet.
Again, your TDS influenced opinion. And the story isn't over on the pandemic yet. America is a federal system, the governors carry the most responsibility for response in each state. Notice that republican governors have done better?

Yep. He certainly cares about Americans.
And the American people care about him, and in November, we will have all you PC, leftist, elitist snowflakes wondering how come you were wrong, yet again.*

*That is, if the mail in vote scam Polosi and Shiff are trying to sneak past the people doesn't work.
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Speak for yourself. I get readers. If you ever have a dead thread, call me and my presence will bring readers. The trick is to be entertaining instead of snooty.
Ah yes. Delusion. No surprise there.

It is your TDS that makes you believe you know his reason.
Judgment from behaviour and beliefs for me but not for thee I see but only in your delusions does this apply

Corrected that for ya hypo.
No denial
No rebuttal
Incorrect correction
Superfluous substitution
Blatant dodge
Must be ethang5

Again, your TDS influenced opinion.
Nice try Jim. Absolutely everything in that statement was factual.

Notice that republican governors have done better?
Tut tut. Delusions again.

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Ah yes. Delusion. No surprise there.
Traffic to a thread cannot be delusion jedthro. Take my suggestion about snootiness.

Must be ethang5
No amount of your butthurt will change reality.

Absolutely everything in that statement was factual.
The "worst pandemic response" was subjective. But we already know you confuse your opinion with facts.

Notice that republican governors have done better?

Tut tut. Delusions again.
Look at a map of red and blue states, and then look a map of the states with the worse covid-19 cases. Oops! See chester, delusions can't change reality.
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Traffic to a thread cannot be delusion jedthro. Take my suggestion about snootiness.
Traffic to a thread indicates that the thread has been visited. Nothing about visiting a thread indicates that anyone is reading your drivel, least of all finding you to be entertaining.

No amount of your butthurt will change reality.
No amount of your butthurt will you mean

The "worst pandemic response" was subjective. But we already know you confuse your opinion with facts.
Worst is hardly a subjective qualifier when backed up objective facts. Such as the ones you just conceded.

Look at a map of red and blue states, and then look a map of the states with the worse covid-19 cases. Oops! See chester, delusions can't change reality.
My dear ethan. When one is to examine which state is doing "better" when dealing with covid-19, one examines the growth and decline of cases, not the total sum of cases.


I'll leave you with some objective data on state covid-19 growth rate . I can never figure out which states are left or right but I'm sure you're clever enough to figure that out on your own