Trump Impeachment Discussion

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--> @Christen
In that case, your Wikipedia article should be updated to include this new information.
The wikipedia article already has this information.

How could the president illegally prevent an allotment even though you just said he "does not have the ability to" do so?
The subtext is the ability to lawfully do so.

What does it mean for someone's motivation to be corrupt, and how can it be proven that Trump's motivation was a corrupt one?
Corrupt motivation is just a dictionary definition, so I would refer you to one for that definition.

As for proving corrupt motivation, we can examine stated intent and desired outcome, and see if it is consistent with existing evidence.

I suppose they would ask around and maybe also do some online research to see what others know? I'm not sure.
So in otherwords... an investigation?

How does saying "if you could look into it" over the phone = soliciting interference with an election?
He's asking for the announcement of an investigation into Biden's Ukraine activities from Ukraine. Since this would impact his results in the democratic primaries, it follows that this is a solicitation of interference by a foreign body.

If there is no objective threshold for what proof is that all sides can agree on, then I guess the courts and judges themselves would have to decide whether whatever evidence is presented against Trump is enough proof.
Impeachment and removal belong to congress, and hence they decide whether the proof is sufficient.

In a court of law, it isn't enough for you to simply "give anyone pause" about something. You must actually prove that they are guilty. Until then, they are innocent.
I wasn't referring to a court of law in this case. I was referring to public opinion.

They've already failed to prove that Trump colluded with Russia back in 2016. Now they're trying to prove he colluded with Ukraine, something that's probably going to be even more difficult to prove, since the transcript of the phone call does not show Trump directly asking for an investigation into Biden's son in exchange for foreign aid, and can easily be interpreted in different ways.
Yeah... that interpretation is only viable if you're being incredibly generous and you've fundamentally missed or ignored how object pronouns function.
--> @Pinkfreud08 @zedvictor4
Zedvictor you're supposed to type in their name in the "Receivers" box, not type in @Pinkfreud08 https://i.imgur.com/u9dYnK9.png
--> @Christen
I would if I wasn't blocked.
--> @Christen
Instead of asking me so many questions about him that I already proved I have depth and answers to, start doing research yourself. I am not hired by your nor do I need to convince you of anything. Trump is among the scummiest of what our species has to offer, he is immoral in almost every way one can be it and has consistently displayed this in public and private career moves, domestic moves and speeches in interviews. The only reason he hasn't 'walked out on his children' is that it would be bad for his public image and that he is sexually attracted to a certain family member (and it isn't his wife).

If you need me to elaborate on just how vile of a person he is, you are not worth the time of explaining it. Fact. Go and research a little and you would understand how brainwashed and biased you used to be (currently are but after the research your mind would change). Until then, stay in your bubble of delusion.
--> @Pinkfreud08
Basically it is good to hold authority accountable but that isn't how politics works. It is about who has the most favor to leverage that to get what they want. I don't think Trump will be impeached, mainly because I think independents are not really pro it. If this is true then swing states are literally going to go red which will secure a victory for Trump.

Will Trump be impeached?
No

Why?
Not enough favor (support) for it to happen. 

But constitution and law
It doesn't matter. People have different standards and they won't admit it instead make excuses for their double standard and/or commit whataboutism. 
--> @TheRealNihilist
Agreed, except that Trump has technically been impeached already. He just hasn't been tried or removed from office.
--> @SirAnonymous
Agreed, except that Trump has technically been impeached already. He just hasn't been tried or removed from office.
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Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. Impeachment does not in itself remove the official definitively from office; it is similar to an indictment in criminal law, and thus it is essentially the statement of charges against the official.

Okay you are right. What I would say is that impeachment most likely won't lead to him being removed from office. Mainly because the senate is red and you need senate approval for it to occur if I am not mistaken. 


--> @TheRealNihilist
I don't think Trump will be impeached, mainly because I think independents are not really pro it.
Your asleep at the wheel aka clueless.

The immoral corrupt racist  psychopathic  narcissist is not only impeached, he is going on trial in the senate.

You need to awaken the conscious part of your brain and smell the roses that have bloomed in US congress.

--> @ebuc
Evidence?

--> @TheRealNihilist
Evidence?
Huh? Evidence for what specifically?   That your clueless is obvious common sense based on your prior post { #30 } I responded to.

Do I need to quote your error again?

--> @ebuc
I just checked he will also go on trial. 

What do you think will happen after the trial? 
--> @TheRealNihilist
I just checked he will also go on trial.  What do you think will happen after the trial?
Glad to see your a little less clueless. YAY!

I hope there are witness with truthful, moral integriy and 10 times more articles.

There will be idiots on the republican side and democrats who are concerned for the integrity of truth and our constitution.


Its going to be sweet when the senate quashes this bit of democrat stupidity.

And then in a short while, Trump will win the election and we can watch TDS tear the snowflakes apart again.

Good times are coming.
--> @ethang5
Good times are coming.
That's good because it has been bad times ever since this psychopathic narcissist, racist, cult leader has taken over the head, balls and morals of the republican party.



--> @ebuc
Yet the economy is good
Consumer confidence is high.
There are great trade deals with China, Canada and Mexico. Iran has been slapped out of its delusion, North Korea is begging to talk, and European leaders who once mocked Trump like Macron, Trudeau, and Merkel have been shamed.

The only people crying are the sufferers of TDS. You keep weeping while the rest of us dance our way to the bank.

Good times are coming. All delusions end.
--> @ethang5
Good times are coming.
Your in cult and selling your soul because the economy is good most because of Obama.

Good times are here you just lack morality to see them.

Trump is going to prison.  I hope his cult followers go to prison also for selling their souls to $ $ $.

All of your are a sad lack of morality, truth and justice for all. :--(
--> @ebuc
...the economy is good most because of Obama.
Use to be, "Trump is going to tank the economy!" Evolve liberals, evolve!

Good times are here...

I know! I just listed the reasons why in my previous post.

Trump is going to prison.
And Hillery is going to be President. And then you wake up.

All of your are a sad lack of morality, truth and justice for all. :--(
But we can speak English.
--> @ethang5
But we can speak English.
Thank God for public education. Many of your type would get rid of it. Sad :--( lack of intellectual and spiritual integrity.

Too bad you never learned what morality is,  much less learn how to practice a moral integrity that is woven into your daily life. Sad :--(

--> @ebuc
Does moral integrity involve insulting strangers online who disagree with you politically?

Is it integrity to call people derogatory names?

Every time you blather about integrity the board groans.

If you had had at least a public education, you'd write better.
--> @ethang5
Does moral integrity involve insulting strangers online who disagree with you politically?
That truth insults you is your lack of integrity, not mine.

Is it integrity to call people derogatory names?
Ditto above.

Every time you blather about integrity the board groans.
The "board" aka is lumber --ex 2x4 or plywoord--- can be not very flexible, and I think you not very flexible i.e. say very narrow minded, aka very short sighted.

If you had had at least a public education, you'd write better.

If you want to know my public education, then you should ask. 10 years of public education, with a repeat of 7th grade.  Not because I failed, but because my mother felt my sister{ 3rd grade } did so poorly it would be benifiical for us to repeat a grade.

She may have been correct in her assessment and in some ways that was a pro for me in ways beyond intellect.   So I never recall being terribly bothered by descission.

I quit school two months into my 11th year. Felt I was not learning much of relevance to my having a job and making money to buy a car and ciggerettes. So I quit and turned my part time job into a full time job at age 17.

Then around age 21 I bought a few books took a state college class that may offerred some help in preparing for G.E.D,  ---cant recall for sure--, bu they did give the GED test, and I passed.  They did not give my scores, however, just as I barely passed most of various subjects, I probably barely passed my GED. I'll never know.

Then in years to come I read many books by cosmologist tyes, physcist-type,cosmic thiinkers  ---ex R P Feynman, Fred Holye and Bucky Fuller--- as well as some books on physicss.

I barely passed my E.M.T license in two differrent states and that was the pinnacle of my official education.  I never did much with the EMT whereas I had friends who applied themselves more and become parmedics, nurses, physician assistants.

Some conditioning from childhood I did not breakout of so that limited my desire to appply myself further in any one specialist education.

Ive had many kinds of jobs ---oil reig rought neck, cattle rancher, dairy farm, food production/processing/packaging---   but I became most proficient in auto mechanics, construction, remodeling, plumbing and electrical repair or new installation.

So I think of myself as a cosmic thinker grounded in many life experiences with a fair amount of public education and even more self intellectual education.  I also learned typing via self education.

Truth is truth irrrespective of how well my grammar presents it.
--> @ebuc
That truth insults you is your lack of integrity, not mine.
Truth has never insulted me. But that you think truth insults betrays your view of truth.

If you want to know my public education, then you should ask.

I don't have to. The dismal quality of your posts testify to the poverty of your education everyday.

So I think of myself as a cosmic thinker grounded in many life experiences...
How you think of yourself is not what your posts say you are.

Truth is truth irrrespective of how well my grammar presents it.
So is stupidity.
--> @ethang5
So is stupidity.
Please share when you actually have any rational, logical common sense that adds to or invalidates any of my comments as presented.

You have never done that and I doubt you ever will.  Your above is just your continual repetition of insignificant non-truths.  Sad :--(
--> @ebuc
Your "moral integrity" is shining through.

Lol.


--> @ethang5
Your "moral integrity" is shining through.
Well thanky Ethang, tho i've made clear in this thread, or another recent one where my morals have fallen way short when it comes to ocean cruiseing. Sad :--( lack of morality for the ecological environment that sustains us all.

--> @ebuc
..my morals have fallen way short...
Don't worry about it, as your own corrupt  morals have never stopped you from condemning the morals of others.

There is a word for that. It begins with "H" and has  "Y".