DART Survivor Mafia - End Game

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Ragnar has been scum a lot lately. Gonna be a good investigation target for future games.
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@SirAnonymous
I had the best claim for a BP which no one claimed, definetly should have rethunk the flip. No one else claimed it. Why would I pull that gambit as mafia when I was already setup to win. It is a dumb gambit and it's a dumb gambit to pull off
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@Vader
Why would I pull that gambit as mafia when I was already setup to win. It is a dumb gambit and it's a dumb gambit to pull off
It would have been a dumb thing to do, but we were too lazy to find an alternate explanation.

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@SirAnonymous
Exactly. Bad town play by assuming I'd do that gambit. I said I stopped doing gambits a while ago, that a horrible excuse
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@Greyparrot
I town read you once confirmed by the NK. Stop. There was reasonable FOS on your claim with Water thing unless confirmed
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@drafterman
My role description is wrong. I did not protect myself. I protected REF
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@Vader
Okay.
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@drafterman
Just saying

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Well I only had to wait 4 pages for the salty Supa reaction. More of a wait than I thought I'd have to wait, but y'know 
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@Zaradi
LOL thank you for that
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Love the theme lmao
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@TheHammer
In retrospect I should have had you in the game as the only super-powered mafioso
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@Zaradi
Well I only had to wait 4 pages for the salty Supa reaction. More of a wait than I thought I'd have to wait, but y'know 
This one was milder than most, but yeah. There's usually a few supa posts in the endgame where he calls everyone bad and doesn't take any responsibility for his part in the game.

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There is a fair share of blame to go around on the Town side
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But, perhaps the most frustrating part was the exchange starting with this:
" look at the people that are not in my townpile. That are also not in your townpile." - GreyParrot

That was pretty frustrating for me while watching too, mostly due to the fact that the misunderstanding was primarily caused by the fact that GP used two-year-old grammar by randomly putting a period in the middle of the sentence for no reason (I am glad you copied the quote of what he actually said instead of just typing out what GP was trying to say so I didn't have to dig through the game to show what I mean) and never correcting the mistake after noticing it.

People may give me shit for being a 'grammar nazi' but if you mean to convey a certain message and you actually end up conveying some other message because you didn't bother to actually say what you mean and instead say something else then... I mean, how is that not a problem? The whole point of having conversations is to convey meaning to another person. If you are not going to do that then why waste your time?
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@Zaradi
Sorry but life takes priority over your dumb play, honey
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@Vader
Lol. If I were you, I'd address my own reputation before I start concerning myself with other people's play. Honey.
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@Zaradi
Wasn't my worse game wasn't my best
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Supa didn't even have bad play this game lol, it's just that he's blaming everyone and getting all defensive
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@Speedrace
Zaradi made a bad decision. When I make a bad decision I get called out for it, so I will call them out. It was IDIOTIC
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@Vader
C'mon we both know that's not why you're tilted. Tell us how you really feel 
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@Zaradi
Tilted, I have never heard anyone use that word. Rephrase
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@Vader
You play overwatch. Yes you have.
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@Zaradi
Nvm lol, I call it "Not that same Bastion!"

I mean a plethora of IRL things, but in game, yea basically that's it

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@Greyparrot
There was no scenario you can imagine where town would lose by waiting 1 day to lynch him.
You're right that waiting a single day wouldn't have lost down the game. And given that there was no NK NP1 (due to Supa's BP) I'm sure everyone would have assumed they converted oro and he'd get lynched anyway.

But I don't think that's a point in your favor, since they are mechanically equivalent.

The main issue with your thinking was statements like this:

It's a ridiculously dumb idea because if scum wastes a nk on traitor they just give town a free night action..... no reason at all for town to be voting up a wash that gives town an extra night action.
It isn't a waste of an NK. An NK only reduces Town numbers by one.
A conversion reduces Town numbers by one and increases Mafia numbers by one. It is mathematically worse.
Secondly, the conversion is secret so Town doesn't know what has happened and simply think there was a blocked NK.

oro outing prevented that outcome, for sure, but that just presents scum another option:

Wait until MYLO. At MYLO, the conversion ends the game during the night and there isn't another DP for Town to do anything about it.

That means with oro outed, you had to kill him before MYLO came around. But lynching him on any day is just as good as lynching him any other day.
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@drafterman
I thought drafterman's mod style was intelligent and effective.  I note Speed is already adapting to the example set here.
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@oromagi
Thank you for the kind words. I try to keep things simple and not get "involved" in the game, per se.