Science v Religion

Author: Salixes

Posts

Read-only
Total: 21
Salixes
Salixes's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 494
1
1
4
Salixes's avatar
Salixes
1
1
4
A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by science: 
* Chicken Pox
* Diptheria
* Measles
* Pertussis
* Polio
* Tetanus
* Typhoid
* Yellow Fever
* Smallpox

A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by prayer:
 * 0
Deb-8-a-bull
Deb-8-a-bull's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,940
3
2
3
Deb-8-a-bull's avatar
Deb-8-a-bull
3
2
3
-->
@Salixes
Nice....

They'd be working on a coronavirus prayer as we speak.
 
ethang5
ethang5's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 5,875
3
3
6
ethang5's avatar
ethang5
3
3
6
-->
@Salixes
A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by science: 
* Chicken Pox
* Diptheria
* Measles
* Pertussis
* Polio
* Tetanus
* Typhoid
* Yellow Fever
* Smallpox

A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by kindness:
 * 0

Therefore kindness has no value!

Of course, telling the genius that is not what kindness is for, or that those diseases have not actually been eradicated, makes no difference.

Delusions are resistant to reality.
Salixes
Salixes's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 494
1
1
4
Salixes's avatar
Salixes
1
1
4
-->
@ethang5
Therefore kindness has no value!

I certainly believe it does.
In fact kindness has  "infinitely" more value than prayer which of course, absolutely no value at all.


ethang5
ethang5's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 5,875
3
3
6
ethang5's avatar
ethang5
3
3
6
-->
@Salixes
A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by kindness:
 * 0
Therefore kindness has no value!

I certainly believe it does.

A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by prayer:
 * 0
Therefore prayer has no value!

..prayer,... [has] absolutely no value at all.
Something tells me folks, that ol'Sals argument has nothing to do with  decimated or eradicated diseases.

Then why did he mentioned diseases? Intellectual dishonesty.

Now, if his argument was correct, would he need to be dishonest?

This is how I know Sal is not simply mistaken, but is rather being dishonest.
Salixes
Salixes's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 494
1
1
4
Salixes's avatar
Salixes
1
1
4
-->
@ethang5
Something tells me folks, that ol'Sals argument has nothing to do with  decimated or eradicated diseases.


Oh gee, you could have a point there. Let me just check.

A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by science: 
Now, let's just check on the other side of the reality fence:


A list of diseases decimated or eradicated by prayer:
Yep, you're completely right. There is absolutely nothing to do with decimated or eradicated diseases anywhere at all in the thread.
Let me double-check.....nope, not even any of the words diseases, decimated, or eradicated can be seen in the thread.

See, I'm a good liar, aren't I?

Mind you, if I were to say that I lie and did so, I would be telling the truth. Similarly, if I told the truth, I would be lying.


Mopac
Mopac's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 8,050
3
4
7
Mopac's avatar
Mopac
3
4
7
Science and religion is a false dichotomy.


Besides, there are many Orthodox Christian doctors. Even saints who were doctors.
ethang5
ethang5's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 5,875
3
3
6
ethang5's avatar
ethang5
3
3
6
-->
@Salixes
If when I point out that kindness also doesn't eradicate disease, you insist kindness still has value, then its value does not come from being able to eradicate disease.

Yet you say prayer has no value because it can't eradicate disease. The dumb illogic is there even if you can't admit to it.

Now, prayer may or may not have value, but because it cannot eradicate disease is not the reason you think it lacks value, or else you would think similarly of kindness.

You posted diseases because it made a good soundbite. But you are aware you are being dishonest. Here is your infantile argument.

Prayer cannot decimate or eradicate disease, but science can. Therefore science has value, and prayer does not.

Yet kindness also cannot decimate or eradicate disease, but science can. Therefore if kindness has value, it is despite not being able to cure disease.

Now, the purpose of prayer is not to cure disease, so why is its value based on what it is not designed to do? That is like calling a car useless because it cannot fly.

I point this out yo you, and because you're dishonest, you fail to address the obvious question. Why the difference between prayer and kindness, when neither of them can decimate or eradicate disease?

See, I'm a good liar, aren't I?
Yes, but we differ on whether that makes you filthy.

While you're a good liar, your thinking is rather poor. I was easily able to show your logical failure here. And when it was pointed out to you, you chose to continue lying instead of admit your faulty logic.

This is why I force you into debate, because first your shoddy thinking shows through, and then your dancing behind lame humor at being exposed is an additional bonus.
 
Notice that you now have 6 zero-reply threads. Only 4 more to go before your first update.

Tell us again about people going quiet as the walk past your water cooler. Lol.
Mopac
Mopac's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 8,050
3
4
7
Mopac's avatar
Mopac
3
4
7
-->
@ethang5
Be careful, you might make him meaner with your argument. He might reject kindness as useless. Lol
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,555
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Salixes
Science uses materials given to us by God to cure diseases
ethang5
ethang5's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 5,875
3
3
6
ethang5's avatar
ethang5
3
3
6
-->
@Mopac
I've known Sal for a long time. He isn't mean, he's just hurting.
Salixes
Salixes's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 494
1
1
4
Salixes's avatar
Salixes
1
1
4
-->
@Dr.Franklin
Science uses materials given to us by God to cure diseases
Oh, that's just dandy isn't it?

God: Now listen, you bunch of heathens down there. Stop your constant winging (praying) about all your dumb suffering wretches of children slowly dying.

Here's a bunch of chemicals for you to go and cure them yourselves.

Now deal with it and stop your moaning."

Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,555
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@Salixes
wow, such genius that is totally how it went down
ethang5
ethang5's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 5,875
3
3
6
ethang5's avatar
ethang5
3
3
6
-->
@Dr.Franklin
How Ol' Sal says it went down, is how it went down. Reality resides between his ears remember?

...dumb suffering wretches of children slowly dying.
The imaginary God didn't help those  suffering wretches of children slowly dying. He's imaginary of course, He couldn't.

But is Salixes imaginary too? Cause he's not helping those suffering wretches of children slowly dying either.
Dr.Franklin
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Debates: 32
Posts: 10,555
4
7
11
Dr.Franklin's avatar
Dr.Franklin
4
7
11
-->
@ethang5
exactly, hes spending his time on here
Salixes
Salixes's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 494
1
1
4
Salixes's avatar
Salixes
1
1
4
-->
@ethang5
But is Salixes imaginary too? Cause he's not helping those suffering wretches of children slowly dying either.
Especially when somebody else gives the wrong bank details.
ethang5
ethang5's avatar
Debates: 1
Posts: 5,875
3
3
6
ethang5's avatar
ethang5
3
3
6
-->
@Salixes
Especially when somebody else gives the wrong bank details.
Relax Sal. The little girl will be fine.

Don't let your fail on this challenge stop your crocodile tears for all those little impoverished tykes.

48 days later

Deb-8-a-bull
Deb-8-a-bull's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,940
3
2
3
Deb-8-a-bull's avatar
Deb-8-a-bull
3
2
3
Religion has known for hundreds of years that it takes on average, 3 days to fully resurrect. 
Why science hasn't even got a instrument to measure this with yet.  

point religion. 

Good game.
Good game.  




Envisage
Envisage's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 48
0
0
2
Envisage's avatar
Envisage
0
0
2
-->
@Salixes
9 in 10 people get chicken pox in their lifetimes, today. So... ok? Well done I guess?

Note that once you have had it, it often reappears later in life in the form of shingles, especially when the immune system is compromised.

Literally the only disease on that list that has been eradicated, period, is smallpox.
Tyran_Orex
Tyran_Orex's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 12
0
0
0
Tyran_Orex's avatar
Tyran_Orex
0
0
0
9 in 10 people get chicken pox in their lifetimes, today. So... ok? Well done I guess?
Completely wrong.
 
It is estimated that since the use of the varicella vaccine in 1995 became widespread, there has been an 85 percent decrease in infections.

7 days later

Tyran_Owreck
Tyran_Owreck's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6
0
0
0
Tyran_Owreck's avatar
Tyran_Owreck
0
0
0
-->
@Envisage
9 in 10 people get chicken pox in their lifetimes, today. So... ok? Well done I guess?
Completely wrong.
 
It is estimated that since the use of the varicella vaccine in 1995 became widespread, there has been an 85 percent decrease in infections.