Voting i Requirments

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I just posted my first vote.  I read the rules, and then as I was reading, I realized I have to read and justify every single point.    It took me an hour to read and judge one debate.  Even though when I did my quick read, it is very obvious who won.


Are the voting complexities discouraging people from voting?  I see a number of debates get no votes.

I doubt I am going to go through that effort again.  If the rules allowed for a simpler response maybe I would.


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Are the voting complexities discouraging people from voting?
Me personally yeah but the rules are there for balancing reasons 




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Well, I think it is cracking a nut with a sledgehammer.

It's not like this is court.  There are a few options

  • Give a multiple of value if you explain.
  • Give weights to votes based on voter experience.
  • Add a no explanation needed extension for votes that have their voting period expired.

It is kinda like voting is deliberately complicated to discourage it.



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So you formed a conclusion based on feel before sitting down to analyze the points?
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Sure did.  When I read it, the issues were very clear.  I did not need to pull out an abacus and an electron microscope to fully diagnose it.


It looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck,  I don't need to put my finger in its ass to make sure its a duck.



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Which debate was it?
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Okay I will read later. I pretty much agree you shouldn't have to write and RFD but you should do your best to remove your own bias, and that points should be weighted based on the length of an RFd. While length of an RFD is an imperfect measure of the analysis put into a debate and the accuracy of it, I think this serves as a balance of encouraging voting while weighting more thoughtful votes more heavily
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Vote system as it is now discourages voting for most people. A summary of why you voted should be sufficent. More than ddo requires, but less than what this system requires.
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What is DDO?
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Debate.org alot of people here migrated from there.
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I appreciate your concern and we will discuss it. 

The voting rules exist to ensure the highest quality of judging possible. I would love to hear your ideas on how we can improve the voting rules.