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Both Trump and George Floyd are victims of rogue law enforcement officers breaking the law.

The bad apples at the FBI tried to do to Trump exactly what the bad apples at the MN police dept did to George Floyd.

See any liberals calling for reform at the FBI? Trump is white, so he can't possibly be a victim.
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See any liberals calling for reform at the FBI? Trump is white, so he can't possibly be a victim.
Saying white people are the problem are inherently racist.
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What are you even insinuating here? George Floyd was murdered in cold blood by a cop with three others as bystanders or abetting participants (this is going to become clearer throughout the case). Trump has had no such thing happen to him.
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Trump has had no such thing happen to him.
Not by lack of trying. Trumps lawless rogue law enforcement officers attempted to get him charged with treason, a crime punishable by death.

Read what I said. "The bad apples at the FBI tried to do to Trump exactly what the bad apples at the MN police dept did to George Floyd." They were caught and exposed before their "insurance policy" could pay off.

If anyone can sympathize with what Floyd went through, Trump can. They were on his neck for 9 minutes, the Trump Deranged crowd has been on Trump's neck going on 4 years now. Unfortunately for George Floyd, he wasn't so "lucky".
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What are you even talking about? Death sentence is something that is stupid and ignores the rehabilitation aspect of justice, nonetheless it is legal. I am talking about unlawful murder at the point of arrest.

Trump is one of the most powerful people in the world right now, George Floyd was bottom of the food chain and preyed upon. FBI were not even wrong, Trump was involved in a lot of illegal tax evasions, tampering with votes via illicit lobbying strategies and much more. The only reason he got away with it is by playing the victim. Meanwhile, he will encourage them to investigate Hillary Clinton and call her pure evil for not wanting her own privacy invaded by the FBI. He is a disgusting hypocrite to the core of his being.
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Saying white people are the problem are inherently racist.
The way around that is to instead say, "Non-white people are NEVER the problem."

Black lives matter = Good
Blue lives matter = Bad
White lives matter = Bad
All lives matter = Bad

Orange lives matter = Very Bad
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What are you even talking about? Death sentence is something that is stupid and ignores the rehabilitation aspect of justice, nonetheless it is legal.
Being given the death sentence on shoddy fake evidence such as the Steele dossier and the Mueller probe is not legal.

I am talking about unlawful murder at the point of arrest.
I am talking about rogue law enforcement officers out of control and breaking the law to violate the rights of a US citizen.

Trump is one of the most powerful people in the world right now,
The rogue law enforcement officers began abusing Trump before he was elected.

George Floyd was bottom of the food chain and preyed upon.
I agree. I also think everyone deserves fair treatment regardless of their position in the food chain.

FBI were not even wrong, Trump was involved in a lot of illegal tax evasions, tampering with votes via illicit lobbying strategies and much more.
Then he should be taken to court..... Wait, he was and won.
Or he should be impeached..... Wait, he was acquitted
Or, at the very least, he should be voted out of office.... Wait....

The only reason he got away with it is by playing the victim. Meanwhile, he will encourage them to investigate Hillary Clinton and call her pure evil for not wanting her own privacy invaded by the FBI.
That wasn't the reason he called her pure evil. His opinion of her was vindicated by the American people. She did not want the FBI investigating her because she committed crimes.

He is a disgusting hypocrite to the core of his being.
A rogue law enforcement officer is not excused because the person he abuses is unsavory. Floyd was a drug addict, rapist, and thug robber. His abuser still deserves prison. Similarly, Trumps character is irrelevant to the crimes committed against him by rogue law enforcement officers at the FBI.
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So you are celebrating that your 'victim' won an election to be president as a severe organised crime offender. Right, now go ahead and compare him to George Floyd again, maybe it will make more sense the second time?
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The only reason he got away with it is by playing the victim. Meanwhile, he will encourage them to investigate Hillary Clinton and call her pure evil for not wanting her own privacy invaded by the FBI.
That wasn't the reason he called her pure evil. His opinion of her was vindicated by the American people. She did not want the FBI investigating her because she committed crimes.
Why did Trump stop the FBI investigating him and dislike it during the investigation?
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So you are celebrating that your 'victim' won an election to be president as a severe organised crime offender.
No. That's just your silly spin.

Right, now go ahead and compare him to George Floyd again, maybe it will make more sense the second time?
Was Trump abused by rogue law enforcement officers? Yes.
Was Floyd abused by rogue law enforcement officers? Yes.

Your irrational hatred of Trump cannot change empirical facts.

Why did Trump stop the FBI investigating him and dislike it during the investigation?
First, he did not stop it. The FBI did investigate and wiretap him.
Second, because the FBI was using trumped up fake data to gain a judges signature to investigate him.

Law enforcement Investigations should use legal means to justify the investigations.
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Agree to disagree
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Why did Trump stop the FBI investigating him and dislike it during the investigation?

Why did the FBI lie to the FISA court about the Steele dossier?

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What nonsense. They barely got to investigate his son's meetings in Russia among much else. He is a sly, wily coyote and they are trying to expose him and told 'stop'. What if he paid off or 'turned' an agent to make it happen? We will never know.
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Did you even read what the judge said?

You can trust CNN, right?
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Why did the FBI lie to the FISA court about the Steele dossier?
Cause Trump’s a Russian Agent. Duh.

#NoCollusion
#NoObstruction
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Did you read what the judge had to say about the FBI?
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Did you read what the judge had to say about the FBI?
Ofc. It’s no myth that the FBI lied to the FISA court and withheld evidence  to wiretap a Trump official Carter Page.
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What do you disagree about? That both Floyd and Trump were abused by rogue law enforcement officers? Or that law enforcement officers used illegal means to violate their civil rights? Or that both Floyd and Trump were private citizens when the abuse started? I can prove all of that.

Did you guys know that the rogue law enforcement officers in the Floyd case also lied about the events of his arrest? If not for the video, they would have covered up their crime, just like the FBI tried to do with Trump.

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The Trump campaign was wiretapped during an election by the opposing party using a false dossier funded by that opposing party. It’s worse than Watergate. There was no Russian collusion. Mueller said so.
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its not even just blacks men, its not race, it is just men in general that are being screwed

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@ethang5
Both Trump and George Floyd are victims of rogue law enforcement officers breaking the law.

The bad apples at the FBI tried to do to Trump exactly what the bad apples at the MN police dept did to George Floyd.

See any liberals calling for reform at the FBI? Trump is white, so he can't possibly be a victim
What is the issue if the FBI treat both blacks and Trump (white) exactly the same.

George Floyd was killed by Police officer Derek Chauvin. What did the FBI do to Trump?

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You’re posing a question to a guy with a permanent ban. I’m afraid you’ll never receive an answer
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The bad apples at the FBI tried to do to Trump exactly what the bad apples at the MN police dept did to George Floyd.
That’s nonsense. The FBI was acting under the authority of a judge. You can’t say that about officer Chovin.

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Not by lack of trying. Trumps lawless rogue law enforcement officers attempted to get him charged with treason, a crime punishable by death.
Um, treason was not listed as one of the several crimes in the search warrant issued by the judge.

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Not by lack of trying. Trumps lawless rogue law enforcement officers attempted to get him charged with treason, a crime punishable by death.
Um, treason was not listed as one of the several crimes in the search warrant issued by the judge.

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Then he should be taken to court..... Wait, he was and won.
Or he should be impeached..... Wait, he was acquitted
Or, at the very least, he should be voted out of office.... Wait....
Trump has never been taken to court since becoming President. His associates have, and many of them plead guilty or were convicted.

He was acquitted by McConnell who said Trump was guilty but it was too late to impeach him. Which was a lie.

He was voted out of office. Only dipshits believe his lies that the election was stolen.

The FBI did investigate and wiretap him.
That’s a lie. The FBI never wiretapped Trump either before or after he was President.
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She did not want the FBI investigating her because she committed crimes.
Oh really, what crimes would that be? 

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FBI lied to the FISA court and withheld evidence  to wiretap a Trump official Carter Page.
That’s a lie. At the time Page was surveilled by the FBI, he was no longer a Trump “official” (campaign foreign policy advisor) Page had also been surveilled by the FBI long before Trump was even a candidate. 

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the Mueller Report concluded that the Steele dossier was right about Page attending high-level meetings with Russians, even though he denied doing so.
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The Trump campaign was wiretapped during an election by the opposing party using a false dossier funded by that opposing party. It’s worse than Watergate. There was no Russian collusion. Mueller said so.
All of this is a lie.

The Trump campaign was not wiretapped. Page was no longer an advisor to the campaign when he was surveilled due to his extensive Russian contacts.

Mueller found the Dossier was correct about Page having high level talks with Russians and lying about it to the FBI.

Mueller did not report there was no Russian collusion. The was Bill Barr. Mueller was unable to interview both Trump and Don Jr under oath. Because they were both so innocent they refused to be questioned under oath.