Earth and Moon Geometry

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And, we are supposed to learn what exactly?
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About our created solar system. 

Did you watch the video?
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You mean, did I watch the video that you've put up before and have been obsessed about for some time? Yes. That's why I'm asking what is it we're supposed to learn? I see nothing of value there.
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you are blind.
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Thank you for confirming there is nothing of value there.
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Of course there is value. It shows how the Earth and Moon conform to squared circle geometry,and it is evidence of a created solar system.
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Still can't be honest with yourself. How sad is that.
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I see you can't prove it wrong, so you resort to troll tactics. 
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Prove what wrong? I said there's nothing of value, nothing to learn. You said I'm blind which makes you dishonest because you have not said anything of value. This is your obsession, not mine. If all you can do is put a video and say nothing, then what is your point? This makes you look like a troll.
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You are not interested in truth. Go away troll. 


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@janesix
I have some criticisms. 1) it very likely could have accidentally happened... actually, the Stonehenge part is proof of accidents bc i doubt the ancients had this relationship on their minds when they made Stonehenge so that also could be an accident. Or, maybe they were just smart and understood the implications of building it that way... either way, it's all possible to have a natural explanation. 

2) This sorta falls under the fine tune argument. It's curious that things are fine-tuned for life, but if they weren't we wouldn't be here. That is why i think it is a weak argument. Sure things are fine-tuned for life... but if they weren't we wouldn't exist. Therefore, out of millions of tries and one being right sounds like mere chance to me... or at least, could also be a coincidence as much as the latter.

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what type of natural explanation? How could this relationship occur naturally?
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Accidentally could happen naturally. 
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You are not interested in truth. Go away troll. 

All you've done is confirmed your dishonesty and the only way you can respond is to insult.

You've said nothing for the value of that video which means you know it has no value. Pure dishonesty.

How very sad and disappointing, Jane.
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@janesix
You are not interested in truth.
You are not interested in honesty or truth.

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It's value is in it's evidence of design. What are you not getting about that fact?
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Do you find that very likely?
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@janesix
I think it is the same for both, 50/50. Fine-tune makes sense in design. Especially since the closer you get to us, the subjects of the painting, it gets more fine tuned. That is the same with art... the closer you get to the subjects, it's more detailed. So... it's definitely curious. But given how big our universe is and the possibility of multi-verses... accidentally could be just as likely. 
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Sorry, I see no design whatsoever. That's a faith based assertion that does not follow from that video at all. More dishonesty on your part.
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what is your gut feeling? Is it designed?
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what is your gut feeling? Is it designed?
I believe in intelligent design... not creationism. 

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I am not surprised you don't see design. That would disrupt your worldview. You need to hold on to that at all cost.

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I am not 100% convinced it was God who designed the solar system.
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I believe in intelligent design... not creationism. 

What would be the difference if I may ask?
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Same here. In degrees, creationism ranks last with me. First it's intelligent design where there was a process to get us here... and second would be accidental. After those it would be a mixture of ID and accident, and last possibly creationism... although it's very unlikely to me it is creationism. There is zero evidence and even observational in our reality... creation has a process.
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I am not 100% convinced it was God who designed the solar system.

Then what did God do?
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To me, God is our moral authority.
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It is possible EVERYTHING is a natural part/process of the universe. 
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Intelligent design has a process. Creationism is something random's will. ID would implicate everything was pieced together and evolved to get to this point. Creationism would implicate a wave of a wand and poof. Also, ID doesn't have to be just one entity, it could be more than one working to create which i like to have to possibility in the mix. It's mainly that ID is a process that each atom was intelligently directed and put together to make a larger creation. It's like finding the material, putting the computer together, making the computer stronger, then having complex video games vs. i thought of a game and poof here it is.