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As you all know, on Saturday our dear leader President Trump had a telephone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. Now because  Lindsay Graham had previously asked Raffensperger to throw out legally cast ballots, Raffensperger decided to record the telephone call with Trump as a way to protect himself from the president's inevitable lies and allegations. On this call Donald Trump was secretly recorded trying to pressure Raffensperger to throw out votes for an opponent and “find” votes for himself. This conduct is impeachable, illegal, and some suggest indicative of a coup. 

Cue the “everyone does it - he just does it for the right causes” brigade.

The audio of this phone call is like telling the Nixon tapes to "hold my beer." 

Trump brought up many outrageous things, such as believing he won the election because his rallies were bigger and making up random numbers and accusations that are not backed by  a shred of evidence. Virtually everything he said on this call can be fact-checked as brazenly false and/or completely unsubstantiated. For instance he said 139% of the population of Detroit voted; only 51% did. You can go through line by line and it's actually painfully funny but also tremendously sad to see the POTUS saying these things in all seriousness. 

What's even more sad: despite overwhelming evidence that President Trump is nothing but a lying, selfish egomaniac who doesn't care about the harm he does to America, its institutions, people or any of its political processes, Republicans still have their own egos too wrapped up in mindlessly championing anything he says and does to hold him accountable for a single thing.  It is both scary and pathetic. Nearly 70% of Republicans still believe there was election fraud despite NO evidence, and now even with yet another call catching the president engaging in illegal activity for his own self-aggrandizement, they still won't accept he has done anything wrong or admit he lacks the competence and character for the office he holds. 

If I were the GA Secretary of State, I would have asked the President flat out to just be clear "What are you threatening me with, and how much of a bribe can I expect if I cooperate?" Even then I don't think Trumpkins have the brains or balls to call out their lord and savior for criminal conduct. Ask yourself just how many of these shakedowns Trump has committed that weren't recorded and leaked. Although I guess if you can stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters, then what's a little shakedown here and there on occasion?

The whole party (I'm exaggerating just a little) is beholden to this man's fabrications. It is sick. Previously some thought Trump would be the "chemotherapy" to fix the sickness within the GOP, but it's become clear that has backfired tremendously. The party is getting sicker. What could be the remedy to salvage the few remaining sane people within? 
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oH aS iF tHe DeMoNrAtS aRe AnY bEtTeR?! 


There, now none of you have to waste time making that irrelevant point. 
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Out of curiosity, did anyone happen to watch Fox News the last few days? I missed it but I was curious to hear Tucker Carlson explain how the media is misrepresenting this call. 
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Well stated.
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Gotta back you on this one. 
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do you have any evidence to back up trump's false claims?

do you even pretend that trump is trying to win fairly? 
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sure, theres tons of evidence for fraud but the rino Georgia establishment wont back up trump, oh well, we already know this

this is nothing like nixon, we KNOW that there is voter fraud and trump has every right to call the SOS of georgia
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Opinion by
George F. Will
Columnist
Jan. 4, 2021 at 2:39 p.m. MST

On a conference call last Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told his caucus that, in his 36 Senate years, he has twice cast votes to take the nation to war and once to remove a president, but that the vote he will cast this Wednesday to certify Joe Biden’s electoral college victory will be the most important of his career. McConnell (R-Ky.) understands the recklessness of congressional Republicans who are fueling the doubts of a large majority of Republicans about the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

The day before McConnell’s somber statement, Missouri’s freshman Republican senator, Josh Hawley, announced that on Wednesday, 14 days before Biden will be inaugurated, he will challenge the validity of Biden’s election. Hawley’s conscience regarding electoral proprieties compels him to stroke this erogenous zone of the GOP’s 2024 presidential nominating electorate.

Hawley’s stance quickly elicited panicky emulation from Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, another 2024 aspirant. Cruz led 10 other senators and senators-elect in a statement that presents their pandering to what terrifies them (their Trumpkin voters) as a judicious determination to assess the “unprecedented allegations” of voting improprieties, “allegations” exceeding “any in our lifetimes.”

So, allegations in sufficient quantity, although of uniformly risible quality, validate senatorial grandstanding that is designed to deepen today’s widespread delusions and resentments. While Hawley et al. were presenting their last-ditch devotion to President Trump as devotion to electoral integrity, Trump was heard on tape browbeating noncompliant Georgia election officials to “find” thousands of votes for him. Awkward.

Never mind. Hawley — has there ever been such a high ratio of ambition to accomplishment? — and Cruz have already nimbly begun to monetize their high-mindedness through fundraising appeals.

For many years, some people insisted that a vast conspiracy, not a lone gunman, masterminded the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy near the grassy knoll in Dallas’s Dealey Plaza. To these people, the complete absence of evidence proved the conspiracy’s sophistication. They were demented. Today’s senatorial Grassy Knollers — Hawley, with Cruz and others panting to catch up — are worse. They are cynical.

They know that every one of the almost 60 Trump challenges to the election has been rebuffed in state and federal courts, including the Supreme Court, involving more than 90 judges, nominated by presidents of both parties. But for scores of millions of mesmerized Trump Republicans, who think the absence of evidence is the most sinister evidence, this proves that the courts, too, are tentacles of the “deep state.” Hawley and Cruz, both of whom clerked for chief justices of the Supreme Court, hope to be wafted into the White House by gusts of such paranoia.

As does Vice President Pence, who says about Hawley et al.: Me, too. To fathom Pence’s canine devotion to Trump, watch a video from June 7, 2018. Seated next to Trump in a meeting, Pence saw Trump take his water bottle off the table and place it on the floor. So, Pence did likewise. Google the 22-second video. It is a sufficient Pence biography.
Republican Sen. Ben Sasse (Neb.) obliquely but scaldingly said of Hawley: “Adults don’t point a loaded gun at the heart of legitimate self-government.” America’s three-party system — Democrats, Hawley-Cruz Republicans, and McConnell-Sasse Republicans — will continue to take shape on Wednesday. Watch how many of these Republican senators who might be seeking reelection in 2022 have the spine to side with the adults against Hawley-Cruz et al. and the Grassy Knollers among their constituents: John Boozman, Richard Burr, Mike Crapo, Charles E. Grassley, John Hoeven, Mike Lee, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Rand Paul, Rob Portman, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, Richard C. Shelby, John Thune, Todd C. Young. By aligning with Cruz, four — Ron Johnson, John Neely Kennedy, James Lankford and Kelly Loeffler — have reserved their seats at the children’s table.

Hawley, Cruz and company have perhaps rescued Biden from becoming the first president in 32 years to begin his presidency without his party controlling both houses of Congress. On Tuesday, Georgians will decide control of the Senate. While they have been watching Republican attempts to delegitimize Biden’s election (two recounts have confirmed that Georgians favor Biden), Republicans were telling them: a) elections in the world’s oldest constitutional democracy, and especially in Georgia, are rigged, but b) the nation’s fate depends on their turning out for Tuesday’s (presumptively) sham run-off Senate elections, lest c) Democrats take control of the Senate and behave badly.
Be that as it may, on Wednesday, the members of the Hawley-Cruz cohort will violate the oath of office in which they swore to defend the Constitution from enemies “foreign and domestic.” They are its most dangerous domestic enemies.

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citations needed
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All I know is that Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensberger are gonna have to find a new job starting 2023
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What makes someone a "RINO?"  As in what specific policy positions? 
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a republican supporting amnesty, free trade, endelss wars, etc
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a republican supporting amnesty, free trade, endelss wars, etc
Republicans are known to be "war hawks" comparative to their liberal counterparts; they are very pro use of military and pro defense. I don't think anyone is for "endless" wars. Do you have any proof that the GA Secretary of State is for endless wars or amnesty?  

The Republican Party has historically been for capitalism and free trade. In fact people who were NOT for these things were called "RINOs." People thought the Tea Party (which is for 100% free trade) was going to take over the GOP just a few years ago, so why you think they are not real Republicans is curious. Please explain. 
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Out of curiosity, did anyone happen to watch Fox News the last few days? I missed it but I was curious to hear Tucker Carlson explain how the media is misrepresenting this call. 


In this article, Tucker Carlson suggests that certain media outlets are actively distracting from the Georgia Senate races.  



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@Dr.Franklin
I applaud you for actually having evidence, but I would ask that you look a bit more into the paper before blindly accepting it:

"On Tuesday, Lott will present findings from an unpublished paper that is not peer reviewed, which purports to find evidence of voter fraud. Lott’s presentation of unvetted and unverified research is especially troubling. Unsurprisingly, his paper alleges evidence of voter fraud — a claim that has been disproven countless times."


In case you wanted another source debunking it:

This is a twitter thread, but the expert has a P.H.D, so he does know what he's talking about:
"Dr. Michael P. McDonald is Associate Professor of Political Science at University of Florida. He received his Ph.D. in Political Science from University of California,"

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brennen center is also biased and has been debunked
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the GOP was the party of anti communism instead of full war until the 90's

free trade is not apart of capitalism
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Provide citations and examples please, if you want to make a claim, back it up. Did you notice that I didn't just say, "His study is biased and has been debunked." I actually provided sources
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Do you mean like the famous list that they would pretend to read off of and arrest or kill anyone who they didn't like, acting under the guise of, "They were communists!" those guys?
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just because the report is claimed to be "debunked" by the brennen center, a corrupt liberal organization, 

the only think the brennen center touches on is supposed "fuzzy math" not the actual claims

of course they try and frame this into "debunked"
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they never did that, and the dem party was also anti communism until now because they love socialism
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Thank you for dealing with the "evidence" part. I didn't have the patience lol. 


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No problemo, I kind of live in an all republican household so I have a lot of sources tabbed
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@Dr.Franklin
Go listen to GOP poster child Ronald Reagan and all he did was talk about free trade lol.

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Do you have any evidence of your claims, did you even read it? Its not just foundless claims, here is what the website actually talks about, and explains pretty in depth:

Lott’s statistical analysis includes far too many variables and controls - a tell-tale sign of statistical chicanery

One cardinal rule that Statistics 101 students learn is that when a variable is included in a statistical analysis, often referred to as a regression model, there must be a sound theoretical justification for its inclusion. A regression model measures how several factors simultaneously affect an outcome being measured. If a researcher includes too few factors in a model, there is a threat that the analysis can leave out something important - a problem methodologists refer to as “omitted variable bias.”

On the other hand, a well-reasoned regression analysis will also be careful not to include too many variables. If a researcher were to just slap together a slew of variables without much thought, obviously, the validity of the findings could also be suspect. From a research design perspective, including too many variables can give other researchers the wrong impression, namely that a paper’s author kept adding new variables to a model until the model produced desirable results.

Statisticians tend to strike a balance between having too few and too many predictors in a regression model. When statisticians see a suspicious research design with an unreasonable number of variables or controls, it can be a sign that someone is trying to gloss over the results. For those who regularly read academic papers, 10, 20 or even 30 predictors could conceivably pass the smell test.

Lott’s analysis sets off the “too many variables” alarm because it purports to measure the effects of more than 50 causal variables on a dependent variable: voter turnout (and 50 is a conservative number, since his model controls for other factors like county and year). Such unwieldy regression models can detect statistically significant relationships that, in reality, are just random noise caused by the interaction of so many variables.

Moreover, the results of oversaturated regression models like Lott’s can be extremely sensitive to minor changes in research design, like dropping one or two variables. In fact, Lott’s work was singled out as being especially sensitive to these kinds of minor changes. When the National Research Council reviewed Lott’s gun research, a panel noted that his findings were “highly sensitive to seemingly minor changes in the model specification and control variables.”


He doesn’t rethink his model in the face of implausible and erroneous results.

Ultimately an oversaturated research design will produce empirical findings that are not valid. The interactions between, and correlations among, so many variables can produce unreliable and imprecise findings. Naturally, Lott’s analysis produces estimates that are simply implausible. His paper finds that certain ballot amendments, those relating to business regulation, decrease turnout by a whopping 12 percent. He also finds that labor reform ballot measures increase turnout by almost 19 percent. As Michael McDonald at the University of Florida noted, anyone who studies elections should be immediately suspect of such findings.


He doesn’t have enough relevant observations.

While he purports to be examining the effect of voter ID laws on turnout, the time period he chose and state policies he studied will not reveal much. For example, Indiana was the first state in the country to pass a strict photo-voter ID law and the first Indiana election with the law in place was the state’s 2006 primary. Lott’s paper looks at the data from 1996-2006, and therefore can say little about the effects of the nation’s strictest voter ID laws because it only includes one election where a strict ID law was in place. To be fair, Lott makes this distinction clear in the abstract of his paper. But his paper and presentation, whether intentionally or not, muddy the waters. Lott’s research only evaluates state ID laws that have fail safes to make sure voters can access the ballot, like an affidavit option for voters that lack the necessary ID or laws that permit voters to bring various forms of ID, like a utility bill, which will not predict how strict ID laws affect turnout.

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i did read it and you did post it, was it anything substanital or just math jumbo
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that was before it destoryed our country
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The Epoch Times is published by the Falun Gong, a Chinese religious movement based out of a 400 acre walled in compound in upstate NY.  Falun Gong teaches that aliens have been inhabiting human bodies since the early 20th century and opposes human rights for women.

mediabias/factcheck:
Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.

Readers should be sure to notice (if you are willing to give Falun Gong your email address which I would not recommend) that the Epoch TImes cites Trump as the source of the claim.  That is the primary source backing Trump's claims of voter fraud is Trump's claims of voter fraud.

This citation only discredits the claim of voter fraud.
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falun gong was promoted by the CCP to make their citizens more religious because guess what-state atheism kills motivation and happiness. that doesnt disprove the source

also it isnt questionable, that is a lie