If You Have a Random Thought, Post it Here.

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If the Confederates had retreated en masse to Cuba, would Cuba be Taiwan?
Though Cuba wasn't isn't an old part of US I suppose.
Hm, but when 'did Taiwan become part of China? (In the past I mean)

"Taiwan has been settled for at least 25,000 years. Ancestors of Taiwanese indigenous peoples settled the island around 6,000 years ago. In the 17th century, large-scale Han Chinese immigration to western Taiwan began under a Dutch colony and continued under the Kingdom of Tungning. The island was annexed in 1683 by the Qing dynasty of China, and ceded to the Empire of Japan in 1895. The Republic of China, which had overthrown the Qing in 1911, took control of Taiwan on behalf of the Allies of World War II following the surrender of Japan in 1945. The resumption of the Chinese Civil War resulted in the ROC's loss of mainland China to forces of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and consequent retreat to Taiwan in 1949. Its effective jurisdiction has since been limited to Taiwan and smaller islands."

"From the 15th century, it was a colony of Spain until the Spanish–American War of 1898, when Cuba was occupied by the United States and gained nominal independence as a de facto United States protectorate in 1902."
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Life is bountiful and sweet like honey doo.
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Only order exists. 

Chaotic randomness is only the humans minds inability to find the order, that, is often to ultra-small to detect, or to ultra-large to contemplate reliably.

All thoughts are resultants{3} of cause{1} and effect {2} phenomena.
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@ebuc
Can you quote what you reply to?

you can’t reasonably say:
Only order exists.
And then say..
Chaotic randomness is only the humans minds inability to find the order, that, is often to ultra-small to detect, or to ultra-large to contemplate reliably.
They’re both of the mind. Both subjective/inter-subjective descriptions.

Other than that you’re preaching to the choir. 
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i remembered this song before, and believed it necessary to share. Its unfair for only I and a million others to bask in its goodness when billions exist.

Outside of that, i may of found a way to create analytic a posteriori, something Kant and Hume both not only failed at doing but believed to be impossible.
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Reminds me of this song, which is the cutest shit ever tbh:

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Microwaves are made in china but it's banned to use them in china
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@Reece101
Can you quote what you reply to?
Sure, ..." If You Have a Random Thought, Post it Here. ", and so I did.
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Sure, ..." If You Have a Random Thought, Post it Here. ", and so I did.
Was the direct reply to both lemming and I random too? Or did you want something to preach about?
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Was the direct reply to both lemming and I random too? Or did you want something to preach about?

There is only order, ergo, truly and technically, there exist no random thoughts, only the great illusion of random.

I was reading some stuff of Lemmings, and must have been something I read that led to my PINGing him also.

You because you created the topic #1.

There exists only cause, effect and resultants.

One of the set of many semi-cosmic threes,  or subcatagories of the great Cosmic Trinary Set. Its structural threeness all the way to the bottom of well of Cosmic Turtles.

Arthur Youngs four lines ---similar to my four---  led him to the Cosmic 7-ness ---- LINK Reflexive Unvierse--- via geometry of Meaning. 

Fullers most significant numbers ---or so I think-- are 6 and 24, however,  we cannot discount his discovery of the 7 primary sets  four axis sets of 1}the 4-fold Vector Equilibrium { 3, 4, 6 and 12 total 25  primary great circles } and the 5-fold set of three axis sets { 6, 10 and 15 total as 31 } ergo 25 + 31 = 56. However, since the VE contractive torques in two directions, and 5-fold icosahedron is the first subset resultant of the VE contraction, we have 31 left-skew and right-skew sets of the 5-fold 31 great circles. That means add 31 to the 56 and that = 87, however, 14 of these are redundantly congruent with others, ergo, we may say that, 83 minus the 14 = 73 primary great circles of Universe.  See LINK and it is 2nd Synergetic bookmarks in my menu, after Synergetics contents bookmark. :--)

So the four axis sets plus the three axis sets totals 7 primary axis sets of Universe ---at least with these two aforementioned, convex polyhedra above----.

So much as I  always like to go to 6, and 24, or 8, or 4 or 5 and 10 etc.  I think the 7 covers so much of broad spectrum adn were back to Arthur Young.

Is there a number responsible for randomeness? Consider first 1, the 2 as follows below to see how 47 may be responsible for all randomness of Universe, if such can exist.

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1238.21 LINK ...." Accepting the concept that one is not a prime number, we have 14 primes__2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43__which primacy will accommodate all the 14 unique structural faceting of all the crystallography, all the biological cell structuring, and all bubble agglomerating: the 14 facets being the polar facets of the seven and only seven axes of symmetry of Universe, which are the 3-, 4-, 6-, 12-great circles of the vector equilibrium and the 6-, 10-, 15-great circles of the icosahedron.

...." Thereafter all the prime numbers that can ever enter into prime trigonometric computation (in contradistinction to complementary function computation) occur below the number 45. "....


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1238.51...."  Scheherazade Numbers: 47: The first prime number beyond the trigonometric limit is 47. The number 47 may be a flying increment to fill allspace, to fill out the eight triangular facets of the non-allspace-filling vector equilibrium to form the allspace-filling first nuclear cube.

....If 47 as a factor produces a Scheherazade Number with mirrors, it may account not only for all the specks of dust in the Universe but for all the changes of cosmic restlessness, accounting the convergent-divergent next event, which unbalances the even and rational whole numbers.

...If 47 as a factor does not produce a Scheherazade Number with mirrors, it may explain that there can be no recurring limit symmetries. It may be that 47 is the cosmic random element, the agent of infinite change."..
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Did you read the last link you cited? Must be all the bots.
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@Reece101

The last link I posted is above, and explains with context why prim number 47 may be cause of all seeming randomness of Universe, as put forward by B Fuller, not me.

You may mean the Synergetics section identifier 1238.51, that i did not install as a link. It was autmated link so maybe the bot your refering to . I dunno.
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Does beauty mean appreciation?
Hm, no no, that's not 'quite it.
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Attraction?
Close, requires clarifiers I suppose.
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It’s like asking what makes pizza a pizza. 
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What do you mean?
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Ideas are built upon a conglomerate of things. Once you pick apart individual pieces of it, the concept starts to fall apart.
Big picture we have a general idea of it.
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I like and agree with what you say,
But ideas would still need definitions, synonyms, rough sentences to explain meaning, other than word itself.
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I often miss prayer,
Being able to put my faith, trust, hope in God, that all wrongs shall be righted in the end,
That one's soul can be saved,
The existence of objective morality.
Askance for strength, confiding in a higher power one's worries, and in that communion be strengthened, for God was not simply another human.

Perhaps it is exasperated by my moral nihilism,
Horrifying I find evil existences at times, both for the reasons that one, they are not evil, evil doesn't exist, no anchor point,
Two, that they exist, that in history people died in the worst ways, yet the wrongs cannot be righted, that many suffer now, that people 'will suffer, that there is no salvation from it, but by chance, chance that one is lucky enough to avoid it,

You cannot imprison/break my spirit, some people have said in past and prose,
But it's simple enough, everyone has a breaking point, suffering beyond what can be endured, that scars,
Anyone, no matter how mighty, can slip or have they heel cut, fall low, pride and good face, cannot be kept against force overcoming,
The mind but a plaything of the body, lobotomy, drugs, no safety.

Ah, but I'm rambling, and it'll pass, just a moment, and the idea'll be forgotten for a time, a 'long while at times.

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Random thought:
Is life just like the Truman Show? Should we blame the script writers for what happens to us in our life?
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Should we blame the script writers for what happens to us in our life?
1] no praise or blame, yet we should give credit where credit is due,
2} we should seek out and find error, so as to correct the error learning/teaching and for future avoidance such or similar errors,

3} destiny is cause effect resultant, and tho we may find the cause { action }, effect { reaction }, the resultant{s] may be many ergo, a branching out of many new actions, reactions and branching outward of another bifurcation  and all causes for many new causes and effects etc, eternally  ---with one possible exception, and that is maximal entropic {seeming random chaos } ultra-long wave { photo frequency } heat death of Universe, when, we may have a reset of the finite, occupied space Universe, back to an orderly { equilibrious } and initiating  set anew/WOW!----,

4} Question: is a truly new emergence possible? Not to confuse this emergence with the finite, occupied space Universe reset, then we can say no, to possible truly new emergence this or that i.e. there exist a finite set of cosmic { eternal } principles. Ex there never has and never can be, a geometry of space, that, has more than five regular/symmetrical, and convex, polyhedra of Universe.

5} just as occupied space Universe has limit, so do does Meta-space truths, of which, there is finite set of absolute truths, and we can refer to this finite set as integrity, integrity of the whole, systemic and structural integrity cannot be associated with infinite { as to space }, rather only with eternal { as to time }.
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I don't quite understand dehumanization, myself.

Even if one hated a people, that they are human seems undeniable,
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@Lemming
That's an interesting thought to have. I think it can be solved through coming to recognise that we can know something is true in our mind but not feel like it is true. A good example of this is those that smoke and are well aware of the consequences of it. These consequences don't feel real to them until it's too late most of the time. I would argue it's the same with dehumanisation.
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socialists are silly, hence silly socialist 
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liberals are snowflakes who are science and fear mongering irrational people. 
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Likely that 'is true for a number of people and dehumanization,
People get engrossed in fictions at times, playing parts they know are false,
But when one is 'in the act, it's a truth for them.
When people play games such as tag, screaming their heads off, exerting great effort to catch or not be caught,
One see's kids and even adults act stupid, such as jumping into a briar patch or small height that could hurt an ankle, because of the importance given the moment.

Psychological effect of glasses and masks, anonymity has often been talked about,
Though I forget if such is because of feeling not seen, someone else, safe from retaliation.

. . .

My thought was that people might often be using the same word, but a different meaning.

People often use the term human for individuals not human, at least not 'as human as we're used to,
Speaking of robots with humanity, or Spock from Star Trek,

Human then comes to have a different meaning, than Homeo Sapien.

Even groups of humans who dislike other humans, their 'humanity seems to me undeniable,

That perhaps they instead meant not our Ingroup,

. . .

But I also think that your point stands,
It's an act insisted on, a play or stance, used for usefulness, more than it's truth.
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Bah, thought this might happen after my brother tested positive a few days ago.
Have Covid now, disappointing, would have been fun to never get it,
Still I've had shots, so shouldn't be severe.

12 days later

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You know the way fantasy martial art fiction has moves like spinning dragon, moonlight hare, or lion's roar?
I wonder if there's any fantasy martial art fiction that has moves like spinning human, moonlight human, or human's roar?

11 days later

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I wonder if there is a difference between these two questions,
What is the purpose of a person?
What is the purpose of a people?

Of course people might give 'many different answers,
But the questions pops to my mind as I think on people who want to improve humans, human society.
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@Lemming
I don't quite understand dehumanization, myself.

Even if one hated a people, that they are human seems undeniable
Have you looked at how you present yourself in your Avatar?

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Well, I'm still human.