Donald Trump vs Eminem

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Donald Trump: Never publicly says the N word.

The media: He is such a racist.

Eminem: Says the N word regularly in a context that if Trump said it, the left would be energized enough to vote him out.  Also says, “Orange man bad”.

The media: What a hero!!!  Oh my gwad.

Me: I don’t care if a liberal or a conservative says the N word.  Nobody should lose their job or get beat up for hurting someone’s feelings.
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Eminem: Says the N word regularly in a context that if Trump said it, the left would be energized enough to vote him out.  Also says, “Orange man bad”.
Unless Eminem was a real estate billionaire involved in pretty explicit housing discrimination in the 1970s that I am not aware of; and unless Trump is a leading figure in the predominantly black rap scene, I significantly doubt the contexts are the same.

Likewise, if Eminem was running or was elected president - in some shocking confluence of events - I guarantee you that there would be significant outrage on the left about his use of the N word - just as there was a little while ago when some of these videos surfaced and there was a suggesting that he was being “cancelled”; rather than being hailed as a hero. 


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Unless Eminem was a real estate billionaire involved in pretty explicit housing discrimination in the 1970s that I am not aware of; and unless Trump is a leading figure in the predominantly black rap scene, I significantly doubt the contexts are the same.
Racism was pretty common when Trump refused to house black people.  That was the culture then.  Biden also advocated for segregation in the 1970s. But since it was a long time ago, the left didn’t care.

I don’t think Eminem being a rapper matters.  If I rapped the N word, I’d get cancelled by most people.

Eminem wasn’t ever cancelled by the left.  He votes blue.
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left most definitely doesn't love eminem lol

he has been cancelled for a number of things by the left including racism, sexism homophobia.

and as ramshutu pointed i dont think he was involved in housing discrimination.
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i and many other leftists also agree biden is a racist peice fof sh*t justcause liberals praise him doesnt mean all of the left loves him.

you say eminem has never been cancelled.......




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also saying it was just the culture doesn't defend anything trump knew what he was doing was bad.

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  • 1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”


  • 1992:
     The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.

  • 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

  • 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”

  • 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama

the point is his racism isnt anything new


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left most definitely doesn't love eminem lol
I thought huff post wrote a positive article about him.

I’m unsure if Trump is a racist or not.  The only way his racism would be something I would vote against was if he made policy that was unjustifiably bad for a certain race.  If he just stereotypes, I don’t really care.  My whole track team stereotyped and my track team was probably the most racially diverse track team in the state.  It’s okay to make funny stereotypes.
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Trump is racist not only because he said the N word. It is just a projection. Eminem is not as racist as a person as a whole.
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Big mistake trying to say such falsehood with me on the website.

Eminem never ever, not once, said that word. He'd come after any white rapper that dared say it.

Show me one instance, one.

This isn't the first time underdog has said a literal falsehood as the basis of his thread.
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left most definitely doesn't love eminem lol

he has been cancelled for a number of things by the left including racism, sexism homophobia.
He has never ever been racist or cancelled due to it. The other two are correct.
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Eminem's IQ is estimated from 110 to 120. Trump's is known to be 73.
Donald Trump scored a 73 on an IQ test administered to him while in high school at New York Military Academy.
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@RM

Eminem - Till I Collapse [HD] - YouTube at 1:23.  It sounds like he's saying the N word.  To be fair, he said, "millions" here.  But some of the millions of people who listened to this song (including myself) thought he said the N word here and there was NO OUTRAGE against it because people give Eminem a pass for being an urban liberal.
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Shhh! The liberals here are trying to tell you when racism is acceptable and when it is not. It's an important thing to know.

For example, if your IQ is below 70, then you are a racist if you use the N word.

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Nobody thought he said n-word there, there would be severe outrage if he had.
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But some of the millions of people who listened to this song (including myself) thought he said the N word here 
source?

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Is any word racist if no one is offended? And if no one is offended, why are we trying to take words out of the dictionary? And if words offend, does anyone ponder why they are offended, and is it only because some Facebook friend was also offended? Let us note for the record the passing of that word: Facebook, according to the Zuck himself.
Personally, I am hugely offended by "woke," since it tends to exhibit the direct opposite, but I'm perfectly happy it remain in the lexicon.
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@RM

I thought he said the N word here and if I thought he said it, there are many others that thought he did.

No outrage from the radical left.

The other people that I have accused of saying the N word you haven't addressed.
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I think it's obvious.  Eminem said a word that soudned a lot like the N word.

The other people that I have accused of saying the N word you haven't addressed.
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I thought he said the N word here and if I thought he said it, there are many others that thought he did.

No outrage from the radical left.

The other people that I have accused of saying the N word you haven't addressed.
Which other people?

You are quite delusional to be honest, a lot of what you say very few others think so no I don't really think you thinking 'millions' sounds like the n-word has any bearing whatsoever on Eminem actually saying the word.
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I think it's obvious.  Eminem said a word that soudned a lot like the N word.
Please clean your ears.
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Which other people?
Hunter Biden and Lyndon B Johnson.  Nobody cared when they said the N word because they are on the left.
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you aren't very bright....
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I have yet to see a single other person who believes Eminem has used the N-word, despite everyone in this thread until I posted somehow thinking he did (they all clearly assumed, which is weird as BPD knows rap).

Anyway, I looked up Hunter Biden's use of it. He used it sarcastically to a white lawyer of his and only to that white lawyer on texts between them, he used it without the hard R as a joke that clearly had absolutely nothing to do with race but I would not at all say there was no issue with him using it, there certainly was.

I haven't come across the 'lack of issue', poeple aren't happy about it but this was a private text between him and his non-black lawyer both seemed fine with it but where it became somewhat problematic and indeed one could say racist is he referred to Obama jokingly, in a text to his lawyer, as it but again without the hard R.

I am not really sure what you mean with that there's nobody having an issue with Johnson's use of the term. There's issue with it, even Lincoln himself was a devout racist. Can you give me an example of it coming up in conversation or in an article and it being called okay?
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He used it sarcastically to a white lawyer of his and only to that white lawyer on texts between them, he used it without the hard R as a joke that clearly had absolutely nothing to do with race but I would not at all say there was no issue with him using it, there certainly was.
The left media didn't care that he used the N word in the context he used it (using it to a white lawyer).  Would the media be fine with it if I said the N word to a white person as a joke?  I thin the vast majority of the time people use the N word is in a joking context.

  but this was a private text between him and his non-black lawyer
So I can privately call a white person, "n***a", it's fine?

I am not really sure what you mean with that there's nobody having an issue with Johnson's use of the term.
Nobody cared when Lyndon B Johnson said the N word(and right after segregation when it was more in everyone's minds).  Otherwise we would have heard it in schools.  Instead, the mainstream media loves Lyndon B Johnson for starting the war on poverty (even though it caused the poverty rate to stagnate after falling for decades and caused the single motherhood rate to skyrocket among blacks, which made their lives much worse than the N word ever did and this further contributed to the poverty rate)(Lyndon B. Johnson - Facts, Great Society & Civil Rights - HISTORY).


When he said, "I'll have them n***ers voting democrat for 200 years", he probably met, "Destroy the black family unit through welfare, create family destroying single motherhood, make black people poor, all to get their votes in elections".  Fuck Lyndon B Johnson.

even Lincoln himself was a devout racist
This is off topic, but given that Lincoln made society better than he found it, I'd say Lincoln was overall decent.

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Its called political hypocrisy, do as I say not as I do. I find it amazing how so many people still listen to stupid political narratives knowing full well they are garbage. People don't want truth they want to be told that what they believe is true. "Political Narratives"

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Out of curiosity, why would it surprise you that Eminem has more of an N-pass than Donald Trump?

Do you know how Eminem grew up? He lived the ghetto life.
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So would you give a poor white west Virginian the n word pass?  They lived the ghetto life.

I don't like restrictions on harmless free speech.  Intellectual comfort isn't a right.
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I wouldn’t consider saying nigger intellectual. Though it is comfort to some. 
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So, to be clear you are not actually meaning to ask why he has more of an N-pass then Trump does, correct?