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Well let's start with not being disproportionally harmed or favored either explicitly or implicitly and if I find that isn't all I mean or isn't quite what I mean I will adjust the definition accordingly 
The vagueness and flexibility of that definition tells me you really have no idea what you mean by equality.
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The vagueness and flexibility of that definition tells me you really have no idea what you mean by equality.
I do know what I mean and if I find I have not described what I mean adequately I reserve the right to adjust my definition. 
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What does "disproportionately harmed or favored" mean?
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You know like whites are disproportionally favored and people of color are disproportionally harmed right now today in our society. 
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And how is a law that forces white people to be paid less than black people not considered disproportionately harmful?
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And how is a law that forces white people to be paid less than black people not considered disproportionately harmful?
You keep on about this. It is the case right now that people of color are paid significantly less than their white counterparts. Let's assume you are right and white people would be harmed (though I'm not necessarily in favor of the policy in question or in favor of any wage slavery and I'm not sure white people how white people would be being harmed if equality were restored) by being paid less. People of color ARE being paid less right now in real life. No law makes this the case it is just the way our society functions. 

IF you think it would be unfair for white people to be paid less THEN you must be in favor of paying people of color more OR you don't actually want equality you want preferential treatment. 
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Anyway I have a much better idea anyway. What if anyone who is worth more than a million dollars was made to be worth only one million dollars (no one needs or deserves more than a million dollars) and these funds were used to fund social programs that would feed, house, clothe and educate all disadvantaged people. I'm not much for any segregation let's disadvantage the wealthy and give advantages to the poor regardless of arbitrary non differences such as sex or skin color such that they have equal power to effect executive policy. 
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It is the case right now that people of color are paid significantly less than their white counterparts.
So as long as we can find some statistic that averages out numbers across the entire nation that shows a disparate outcome, we can make laws that disproportionately favor one group over another based on skin color, correct?
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So as long as we can find some statistic that averages out numbers across the entire nation that shows a disparate outcome, we can make laws that disproportionately favor one group over another based on skin color, correct?
This thread was never about skin color. Why are you so determined to argue that there is no systemic racism that you made yourself sound like a racist in a thread which has zero to do with race? I mean you do understand that whether you actually are or not you have certainly given the impression that you are. 
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Why are you so determined to argue that there is no systemic racism that you made yourself sound like a racist in a thread which has zero to do with race?

BigPimpDaddy asked me in post #95:
Please explain democrats marxist like tendencies.

I responded in post #96:
Critical Race Theory is a great example. At least, the practical application of it at a policy level.
The justification for this being that CRT stems from Marxism, hence the use of the term "Marxist-like" rather than just calling it Marxist. Neo-Marxist would be more accurate, but I didn't feel like going down that rabbit hole.


Then you interjected to my dialogue with someone else in your post #98 with this claim:
Critical race theory is almost never considered in policy creation or application. That is why there is a need of critical race theory to he taught at the college level though it will never be taught in public schools owing mostly to the extremely advanced nature of the course. In other words no one will be given a course in critical race theory that has not already chosen to devote considerable study of race relations in American history. 
To answer this claim, I began by showing you that the fundamental principles unique to CRT are in fact being taught in public schools. The point was to show you that, in the context of your analogy, CRT is actually the overarching topic of "biology," while the specific teachings of people like Derrick Bell are "neuroscience." So the fundamental concepts of "biology" are being taught and applied in public schools. And the teachers learned "neuroscience" among other things at college before they became "biology" teachers.

But, according to your own self-analysis, you are not familiar enough with CRT to recognize that. You have simply adopted these teachings as indisputable truths about reality without even realizing that you have done so or why. This is how you can justify actual racism against people based upon grievances with that racial group, whether past or present. By the way, this same line of reasoning was used by Nazi Germany and the KKK. "Things are unfair for me because of what that group did, so the only way to make it right is to do something unfair to them!" We've seen how that goes...

So as soon as you say, "Discrimination against someone based on skin color is wrong unless..." you have lost any moral high ground.

Because you're a racist.


To reiterate your current question:
Why are you so determined to argue that there is no systemic racism that you made yourself sound like a racist in a thread which has zero to do with race?
The reason I am arguing with you about the concept of systemic racism because you initiated the argument in your post #98. So if you didn't want to talk to me about racism in this thread, why did you initiate a conversation about CRT that didn't involve you?
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Clearly there is systematic racism and if your claim is that there is no racism while simultaneously claiming racism against whites who are the privileged class you are being self contradictory and not arguing in good faith.

So can we drop it?
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Clearly there is systematic racism and if your claim is that there is no racism while simultaneously claiming racism against whites who are the privileged class you are being self contradictory and not arguing in good faith.

So can we drop it?
The fact that you would even phrase your accusation in such a way shows that your mind is only functioning in the context of CRT and I'm not sure you even realize it.

But we can drop it any time.
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thats not how you assign value to work
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You can always tell when someone doesn't like to work hard cuz they complain that people that work hard make more than people who don't.
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Right on. And add that people who never work hard never figure out how to work smart, and earn even more.
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A cheese and pickle sandwich.

Yum Yum.

F**k work.

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You can always tell who the Marxist is by the level of commitment toward investing in themselves as a person.
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@secularmerlin
No matter what economic system you live under you will work. Which economic system you live under determines if you can choose what kind of work you will do. Choose your economic system wisely as there is no escape from work. There are no free rides anywhere.