Can Google Replace Calculators?

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That one difference was part of my point lol. Again, I'm asking who uses one over the other.

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I generally use these more than a dedicated physical calculator, especially in online coursework, but there are certain advantages to being able to access advanced functions anywhere, without wifi or power.
This was all I cared to know.
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Book keepers and accountants use calculators

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Book-keepers and Accountants are calculators.

Who will undoubtedly use some sort of calculating device.

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I find it funny when I try to see how ChatGPT tries to solve equations. Often it goes into this very lengthy explanation about an answer that is obviously incorrect.

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GPT (4.0) is actually pretty good since it integrated python scripts. It still has to get the premise right, but you don't get weird floating points (not literal floating points, but numbers being slightly off because it's a text predictor not a calculator) in decimal calculations.
Absolutely bonkers that a LLM can do math with any level of complexity though.
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Oops, K Mich has blocked me. 
KMich, I asked free Chat GPT a Pi powering question.  Pi^4 =  97.4090910...

1} GPT....' No, the statement "Pi^4 = 97.4090910... is not correct. The value of pi raised to the power of 4 is approximately 97.40909103. '
2} Ebuc.... Pi^4 = 40909103 approximately. Pi^3 is 3 Dimensional resultant. Pi^4 minus Pi^3 = 66.4. Correct?

3} GPT... ' No, that is not correct. Pi^4 is approximately 97.40909103. Pi^3 is a three-dimensional concept and does not have a specific numerical value. Therefore, the operation of subtracting Pi^3 from Pi^4 does not make mathematical sense. '

So in the 2nd response, GPT says Pi^3 is a 3-diemensional concept and does not a specific numerical value.  Yet, GPT had no problem in its first response in adding a 3 onto first question ---not shown above---. So I took GPTs Pi^4 resultant, yet it refuses to give a Pi^3 resultant.  That seems a little strange.  Why is Pi^4 get a valid resultant, yet no valid resultant with Pi^3?

4} Eb.. Pi^4 = 97.40909103. Pi^3 = 31.0062766. 97.40909103 minus 31.00627668 = 66.40281435?

5} GPT...' No, that is not correct.
Let's calculate the values correctly:
Pi^4 = (approximately) 97.40909103 Pi^3 = (approximately) 31.00627668
Now, let's subtract Pi^3 from Pi^4:
97.40909103 - 31.00627668 = (approximately) 66.40281435
So, the difference between Pi^4 and Pi^3 is indeed approximately 66.40281435.

6} Eb...Why is Pi^4 not a 4 dimensional resultant 97.40909103 approximately?

So previously---see #1 above--- GPT stated that Pi^4 is 97.0909103 approximately, and here below it wants to extend to 97.409091034002423.
that resultant from what it itself presented previously in order to avoid dimensional validity.  That is inconsistency and if it were human I would say their just moving the goal  line to save face/ego, yet GPT does not have an ego.

7} GPT....The value of Pi raised to the power of 4 (Pi^4) is not equal to 97.40909103.
Pi^4 can be calculated by multiplying Pi by itself four times: Pi * Pi * Pi * Pi. This results in approximately 97.409091034002423. Therefore, the exact value of Pi^4 is not exactly 97.40909103.
It's important to note that Pi^4 is not a 4-dimensional resultant. The concept of exponentiation does not directly relate to dimensions. Instead, it represents repeated multiplications of a number by itself. In this case, Pi^4 represents the result of multiplying Pi by itself four times.

So went back and quote GPT' own comments of truncated Pi resultant twice and do not accept their comments as stated  --human ego in a GPT?---- see as follows

GPT... "
I apologize if there was any confusion, but Pi (π) is an irrational number and cannot be expressed as a finite decimal. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 (rounded to five decimal places), and the value you provided (97.40909103) is not correct. Please let me know if there's anything else I can assist you with.

Ebuc..and recall above on #5, GPT agreed with me with a finite value for 66.40 etc
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Went back one last time and quoted GPT and it came back once again, being inconsistent with its replies.

EB...." So, the difference between Pi^4 and Pi^3 is indeed approximately 66.40281435. "

GPT..' Pi^4 - Pi^3 ≈ (31.00628) * (2.14159) ≈ 66.44634
Therefore, the correct difference between Pi^4 and Pi^3 is approximately 66.44634, not 66.40281435.


So where does GPT get this * (2.14159) value from.  If it was a human, I would start thinking of replies, you talking out your ass, as you keep changing values, to meet save face/ego and avoid not only your own prior comments, create avoidance methane out of you port hole of you algorhtym.  I suppose this is what can expect from a free version. Here is the URL



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@ebuc
I specifically said GPT 4 (not the free API that you used) because it has integrated python scripts to do more accurate calculations.
Your example of getting two different numbers (66.44634 and 66.40281435) is an instance of those 'floating numbers' I was talking about.


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@Mharman
Your example of getting two different numbers (66.44634 and 66.40281435) is an instance of those 'floating numbers' I was talking about.
Oops, K Mich still has me blocked.

Yeah, free GPT keep floating the numbers longer, and then introduce numbers irrelevant to the my comments and questions as presented.

My comments remain valid as presented i.e. free GPT kept moving the goal posts to fit its need til fill a niche, and disregard of its prior comments as a factual truth.

If could afford paid GPT I certainly would have.  We do what we can with what we have.  See Dick Cheney's...' we go to war with what we have not what we wish we to have '...