Ultimate Reality

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Describe it.
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Reality in the truest sense.

Reality as it truly is.





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That's not a description. Try again.
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@janesix
Dough, tomato sauce, cheese, toppings....
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@janesix
Is a description of The Ultimate Reality the same thing as The Ultimate Reality?

It is exactly what it truly is. 

In fact, the concept of "The Ultimate Reality" is an image or icon of that which it represents.


You know the son, you know the father. The spirit of truth activates it.





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Yep no reality there.
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Will you confess The Ultimate Reality exists?

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So you have no description. Gotcha.
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I can't imagine there is an ultimate reality. Reality tends to be in the eye of the beholder. 
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Lol
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In other words, reality is arbitrary.
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The Ultimate Reality certainly does exist, and if you say that it doesn't, your assertion cannot be true. It is self defeating.
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Doesn't it get boring saying the same meaningless thing over and over again?
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Not such thing as ultimate reality. Reality is what it is No special reality. 
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The Ultimate Reality certainly does exist,
Gods are the creation of men, therefore your ultimate reality doesn't exist.

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The Truth doesn't change.

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I don't believe the gods you argue against.

But if you say The Ultimate Reality doesn't exist, that is foolishness.

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I never said it did. However, I doubt you know what the Truth is.

Truth=God=Ultimate Reality=Truth. Your circular argument lacks any real meaning.
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Reality as it truly is

That is The Ultimate Reality.
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Says you. Big deal.
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Not if you think your god is reality. 
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This is a confession of your own inability to find meaning. Evidently, I believe there is great meaning in what I'm saying.

So what? Is it all just down to arbitrariness?


No, words have meaning. The meaning of the word "God" is The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. That is not an argument. That is a definition. A definition I am not budging on, because any compromise on this gives false hope to the atheist that their position is anything other than utterly invalid.

I'm sorry that The Truth is meaningless to you. 


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Describe God.
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The Ultimate Reality is God.

That is something that goes beyond mine or anyone elses understanding of that.

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@Mopac
That is your reality. Not mine. And what you think is true doesn't make it the Ultimate truth. Your opinion is noted. 
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Nope. Your god is one of many so your reality is one of many. 
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@janesix
The Ultimate Reality.

Exactly what that means.

If ylthat isn't good enough for you, it is because you want something you can argue with.


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My reality is by definition not the ultimate reality. It has very little to do with what I think. See, we agree.


You still don't understand what I'm saying.

The Ultimate Reality is God.



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@Mopac
Am I arguing with you? Or trying to get you to describe your concept of God? Do you even have one?