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#637

[NO DIRECT KRITIK ALLOWED] Out of the DebateArt.Com options, the optimal Life Priority to genuinely stand by (not just 'select') is Power [READ THE DESCRIPTION(S) FOR THE RULES]

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After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
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Description

I will just quote the Short Description before proceeding onto other rules:

1. You are not allowed to Kritik the subjectivity of 'Best' but you are allowed to Kritik that 'Power' is even a tangible thing to prioritise.

2. YOU MUST REPRESENT MINIMUM ONE AND MAXIMUM 2 PRIORITIES AS THE ALTERNATIVE.

3. Extending on from Rule 2, you are not permitted to take the stance that aiming for Power is wrong because having a Life Priority is wrong.

4. You cannot stand for 'no information' because this is about actually standing by it, not just selecting it.

5. You cannot simply win by saying 'the best way to aim for power is to deny you aim for it' and then give another example of what to aim for and say 'power comes with this and that's the reason to choose it' unless you can give reasons other than power as to what that gains vs loses. This is about the Life Priority you actually aim for, the one you select can be a lie and maybe even be better chosen to mask that you aim for Power, in order to gain Power here, but that is not relevant to this debate or its permitted angles.

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@Titanium

I meant that the first definition is neither pro nor anti free will, will correct in R2.

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@RationalMadman

I see. Well, while you're mastering all I'll continue to focus on self-mastery but the result is the same in terms of debate prep I guess. 'Plan some, improvise some' should be the human motto.

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@Titanium

Plan some, improvise some. Master all.

Interesting resolution. Did you have a plan when instigating it? Looking forward to your argument.

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@Ramshutu

It isn't up to the debate's creator to beg people to join. It's up to you to accept the debate and punish them for being on the wrong side of a possibly flawed resolution.

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@RationalMadman

Sorry. I meant to say:

Why should I (as a debater, not as someone who is just viewing the debate), read the debate resolution and the information provided, ask questions and not get a good answer, but still accept the debate, knowing that what is being said is not clear, and my opponent clearly feels there is something more at play (with for, example some semantic trick or play, that could change the resolution to an even more vague possibility), that could trap me because what he initially said is not clear.

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@RationalMadman

I’m not going to accept a debate with an indecipherable resolution.

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@Ramshutu

I do not want to reveal what I am going to do. Accept the debate and represent the one you see as most important. It will lose no matter what, to 'power'.

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@RationalMadman

Or, these same many variables factor in to what makes one priority more important.

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@Ramshutu

No, because importance would only be one of many variables that go into the one you SHOULD prioritise.

You mean “out of the list of life priorities offered by DebateArt, power is the most important”

bump

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@Alec

Look at your Profile and look at the word 'Career' then look at the bolded words to the left of it.

I don't know what the debate is about.