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evil does not exist ontologically or in any sense of the way

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evil is real. the bible says evil exists and defines it. romans 1 and 2 both talk about how gods law is written on our hearts and that men will be judged on the last day by their thoughts and actions. some people can scar it though by doing evil. men have an evil sinful nature and so they scar it. that's why kids never have to be taught how to lie but the do need to be taught how to do good and obey their parent because kids and adult naturally rebel and sin. that why cops and government are needed. and that why wars occur and governments are corrupt. as time has progressed people have always clearly been evil. after thousands of years ww2 occurred and atrocities continue. people are naturally evil. people have to change to want others to be seen and cared for more then themselves. this is romans -1:18-32:For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, both His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the likeness of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions; for their females exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the males abandoned the natural function of the female and burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper, having been filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, violent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. -HOW ELSE could 8 billion people on planet earth know rape and child abuse are wrong? people on different continents before they ever knew each other and before adult hood naturally agree that murder and child abuse is objectively wrong. would anyone ever say it depends on opinion. NO.

so why are we talking about evil if does not exist?