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Atheists and theists are religious alike.

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Atheism

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Publication date: 02.13.2026 11:08PM
Last updated date: 03.29.2026 11:53AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 4
Time for argument: Two weeks
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DebateNewbie031025

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Round 1

Mall

02.27.2026 03:35PM

Pro

Atheists and theists can both be religious.

Atheists, all atheists ultimately, the folks that mature to make a decision make a decision to believe what theists don't believe in.

Which theists lack the belief in a non existence of the gods they're religious of.

So the atheist will take a religious faithful position that those gods don't exist.

Now without evidence that will show these gods don't exist, atheists will believe anyway that they don't.

That does take faith which what ultimately what religion amounts to.

Anything that you don't know, you either have to accept or believe in or be neutral on.

In this case, being neutral is more rationale based between theism and atheism as being neutral, you don't take a belief system in either step of direction.

Another point about atheists which is not a main point because it doesn't apply to all in the same way, they're satanists.

Atheists joined a cult in satanism. Now this belief system doesn't apply to all atheists in the same way.

But in what way indirectly you might ask?

Satanism is the religion and belief system that encourages just the faith in yourself. You believe yourself as a god, ruler, authority and chief principle source of conduct , "morality"( do's and don'ts) of one's life, philosophy and code.

Now this is all what all atheist persons have to eventually decide themselves, tailor and fashion accordingly to lifestyle preference granted they live long enough on planet earth.

You make the decision to reject any what you can call "higher power" you see.

Another point, not major, is the decision made by the courts. Although I believe just the U.S. courts declared atheism as a stance taken on deity, a religion.

Which makes atheism a secular religion of course. At least compared to those that have a spiritual one.

Which solidifies there no true separation of church/religion and state anywhere.

Never will you have the void of a belief system in government. Yes, this is true.

As a political person, political atheist, according to your worldview, personal views, personal beliefs in how to live your life, you will vote for a government that pushes policies to promote the same.

Now some will argue that there is no such thing as atheism . That is simply based on the reasoning that there is a final arbiter, judge, adjudicator in the life of all human beings. Thus making atheism another religion.

It is in atheism that contains the most weakest basis to be an atheist ultimately on the account of not seeing subjective evidence. Whereas the atheist wishes to see evidence to believe in the gods of theism but is satisfied in believing in no gods of theism without evidence at the same time.

There are other factors that cause atheism and the element of evidence is not the focal point.

You have atheists that perhaps are more convicted than others to be so bold and assert there are no gods of theism. This is again, without evidence, it's funny.

Just to avoid being classified as a faith, they come boldly foolish.

DebateNewbie031025

03.13.2026 03:35PM

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Round 2

Mall

03.14.2026 05:21PM

Pro

I rest my case .

DebateNewbie031025

03.28.2026 05:21PM

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Forfeited

Round 3

Mall

03.29.2026 11:53AM

Pro

I rest my case.

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Round 4

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Nabisso2001

03.14.2026 10:43AM

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