What evidence convinces you of your position?

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  • Fallaneze
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    Do you have a position at all on whether there's an intelligent creator of the universe?
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    Since there is no evidence or way to prove a creator of the universe I would say there is no evidence. My personal experiences have lead me to believe there are higher beings then humans in the universe and my beliefs as an animist lead me to believe the universe has a spirit like any living thing. That is the creative force that brought life into being. Not any god or gods. 
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    Do you believe "evidence" must be something tangible or can evidence just be informational?

    Is a belief rationally warranted only when "proven" true or is a belief rationally warranted when it's more plausibly true than false?

    Are you a pantheist? I guess I don't really understand your position.

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    the universe has a spirit like any living thing. That is the creative force that brought life into being. 

    Oh, you mean The Holy Spirit, that giver of life? The breathe of God that enlivens all creation?


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    No. 
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    It's called animism. Do some research, bigot. 
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    Can you verify that something is factually true without having something tangible to support it?

    What's the threshold for rationally warranted belief?

    I have a hard time believing that you believe the universe is alive and has a spirit. Do you actually believe this or are you just trying to be edgy for special attention?
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    Yeah fuck you. 
  • Fallaneze
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    Well I guess that answers my question.

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    Sure did stupid piece of shit. 

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    Thanks for the confirmation. Sorry for triggering you.
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    Don't be sorry you are a bigot. Get to being a better person. Asshole. 
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    --> @Fallaneze
    Do you have a position at all on whether there's an intelligent creator of the universe?
    I think it is almost certainly not so. 
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    "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry."




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    --> @Fallaneze
    Do you believe "evidence" must be something tangible or can evidence just be informational?

    Is a belief rationally warranted only when "proven" true or is a belief rationally warranted when it's more plausibly true than false?

    Just out of curiosity, what evidence or information do you use to justify your belief that the existence of God is more plausibly true than false?
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    I attack ideas, not people.

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    Why?
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    Don't be a bigot. Stupid prick. 
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    The best explanation for the fine-tuned universe proposition indicates intelligent design. This alone would rationally justify belief that an intelligent creator of the universe exists.

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    No need to throw insults. This is the last bit of attention I'm giving you so savor it.
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    Then you shouldn't have started it your stupid bigot. Animism is older than any religion. Get a clue bigot moron. 
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    The best explanation for the fine-tuned universe proposition indicates intelligent design. This alone would rationally justify belief that an intelligent creator of the universe exists.
    I see. What you are calling the "best" explanation for a fine-tuned universe, I call just another possible explanation with no more plausibility than other current possible explanations such as Hawking's "top-down cosmology" which is supposedly testable and which I don't fully understand.

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    The universe is so full of order that we can't even co prehend it. What we can't comprehend is chaos(chaos is a mathematical term even for that which we can't make sense of).


    But the order is apparent. And that order in itself is evidence for the existence of Ultimate Reality.