Machiavelli training in talking to women online

Many sites give you false advice on how to talk to women, especially online. They tell you to express yourself, to make a move, to talk a lot, to give her attention. These are the worst possible advices you could get. With these advices, you will try hard and fail a lot and embarrass yourself, unless you are some hot guy. The reason you will fail is because most people do that and it annoys women.

Machiavelli would use a complete opposite strategy.

Machiavelli wouldnt approach a woman first. He would bait her into approaching him.

For example, he would send her friend request, but he wouldnt message her. He would wait a few days, maybe even a week.

If she doesnt message him by then, he would leave a very short comment on one of her photos, something like "looking good".

If she doesnt message him then, he wouldnt post more comments. He would just maybe give her 1 such short comment every two weeks on her posts or photos.

Why?

Because if he went posting too much, he would seem desperate. But when he posts just one comment and doesnt post again for weeks, it seems to her as if he has many other options.

This baits her into messaging him.

Lets say she says "hey" in private messages. Some stupid person would immediatelly answer by "hi, how are you?". But such response ruins the entire "pretending not to care" act.

The correct response is to delay response. Dont respond immediatelly. And then, after some time, respond just with "hi".

If she asks "How are you?" you dont respond by saying "I am fine, what about you?". You just delay response, and then say "Fine."

The difference between these responses is huge, mainly in the attention shift. When you also ask her "what about you?" you are making a mistake by giving her attention. If you just respond with "fine" instead, you are not giving her attention and you are forcing her to write more to you and ask you questions.

You dont want to give her attention. You want to only give her smallest amount of attention, shortest response possible, which is also a delayed response.

Why?

If she is really interested in you, she will keep pushing the chat anyway and your lack of care will only make her more excited.

But if you gave her too much attention, she would think "I can have this guy any time I want, so I will reject him for now to explore other options."

In other words, dont make her think she can easily have you. Dont give her too much attention, only a smallest bit to bait her.

The harder you are to get, the greater your value is. The more rare your attention is, the greater is its value.

The result?

She will either make a move on you, or she will leave and you wont seem desperate either way.

The best part about baiting is that you can do it rarely and consistently for best results. One casual short comment on her photo every two weeks is enough to keep her interested, and even turn to you when other options fail her, and make a move on you out of despair. You want to give support, but only small amount of support, only that one short comment which makes her feel good, and then you ignore her for weeks unless she makes a move.

Another reason why this strategy works is because it attracts women who are specifically interested in you. In other words, if she messages you, you already know she has some interest.

In online world, you want to say less to achieve more. The more you talk, the more boring you become, and more likely you will say something wrong. Never overexplain. Never go in details. Never write more than 2 sentences per message. Keep your sentences as short as possible. Never rush to respond.

Also, baiting plenty of women this way into messaging you will give you certain results.

"Deception works because there is always someone who will fall for it." - Machiavelli

My favorite is, "How you doin".

Another note: Sometimes not responding to message at all is even better. Make it appear as if you are not interested, but keep baiting them anyway to send more messages to you. Women use this strategy too all the time.

Yes, let them talk a lot and you say very few words just to keep them going.

Robert Greene is more of an expert in this field than Machiavelli. 

Maybe.

But trust me, you want to be strong silent type of few words, at least at start. I dont think there can be much disagreement there. If you bait 500 women, chances are at least 10 of them will message you first. But giving all attention to one woman means you miss out all others and the one you are giving all attention to might not even be interested.

That's not baiting lol. What's the bait exactly that attracts the woman? That you said two words to them on social media? Only way it works is if the woman is already attracted to you, in which case this strategy is unnecessary.

If this was true, any man with 500 female friends on social media would be drowning in attention. Obviously 500 increases your chances more than 0, but your strategy is essentially "do nothing and wait" and if it worked that way everyone who wanted a date would have one. Why is it better than 500 attempts of actually trying?

So every woman you don't hit on will be attracted to you? Most man aren't hitting on every women they meet, so by this logic all the women they don't hit on should be attracted to them.

Yes, making your presence known to her.

No.

Plenty of single men whose presence is known to many women.

Doubt it. When online, it is better to make yourself known to over 500 women, as that increases your chances greatly.

Agreed.

Nigga if you talkin to a woman online she not lookin for a relationship, she lookin for a paypiggie. Bitches have figured out they can get 1k paypigges eatin out of they hand and not even fuck em. That's what the calculus on the other side look like - she eying up whether you low-effort meal ticket material. Y'all really think bitches wet they panties and hook up with niggas who say 'lookin good' on they pictures? With no money changin hands? Please. Bitches worth havin are hookin up with niggas who are hot, got a fat wallet, and/or an easy, confident personality - preferably all three. Some greasy nigga optimizing how to time his message replies aint it. Small dick energy y'all - we can smell it through them screens.

All ya gunna get tryna hook a bitch through social media comments is pity and/or gonorrhea.  

This is just playing it cool so you dont look desperate. If you want to message every woman you like, that is much more work per woman, thus much less women you can work to connect with during one day, and you end up looking desperate. If you dont like online world, well, these strategies can apply to real world too. The key is just in giving her small amounts of attention and support but keep repeating it over time, give her attention once a week maybe. If she is attracted to you, you will notice it, and if she isnt, you dont end up looking nor feeling desperate.

Machiavelli didn't get bitches cause he hunched over his computer on Insta, lookin at his stopwatch tryna decide when to hit send on his 451st 'lookin good' comment, hoping some sad bitch gunna give him a shadow of a crumb of pussy.

That nigga lived here: https://theluxurytravelbook.com/property/luxury-villas-and-apartments/italy/tuscany/villa-machiavelli/

Talked with kings and shit. Diplomat, man of letters. He was a gangsta. He was somebody. Power make bitches horny. You want a bitch? Make somethin of yourself like Machiavelli did. Don't waste time fuckin around on Tiktok or whatever.

Which is why you play it calm.

This is a lot of words to simply say you are too much of a pussy to say hello to a female and make an effort to get to know her better. 

But given your age preferences, perhaps it is best to refrain from initiating. 

This is absurd discussion which accomplishes only to advance an absurd purpose for the internet. If people cannot figure out how to talk to anyone, the internet is the last place to go for valid advice. The internet will tell you any shyte you want to hear, just like television does, so this has been going on far longer than AlGore's alleged invention. This assumes all women, and men, think and act in unison by similar thinking and acting. Are we really that stupid? If a woman interests a man, or vice versa in any combination, walk up and start talking, without any attempt at being clever, or coy, or any tactical attempt for advantage. Be yourself; everyone else is taken. Honesty is still best policy.

By the way, notice I completely avoided mention of discussion online. Take that zs you will.

Its not the "hello" I am afraid of. I just wouldnt want to beg way too much so she still rejects me. Besides, women are the ones who more often have "I do not usually message first" policy. They bait men into simping.

Honesty isnt the best policy. There are women who will bait you into thinking they like you. They will give you a little bit of attention here and there just to keep you around. If you want to fall into that trap, sure. Many men have.

That is false for the simple reason that although the man in your scenario may try to be honest, the woman is not, and, should the man disagree, he walks away and maintains his honesty. Meanwhile, the woman, not being honest, but calculating, is not being honest, and that consequence is on her. Should the man decide he wants to engage the woman, anyway, he is no longer honest to his own integrity, and that consequence is on him. Either way, consequence is the result of denying honesty in favor of hedonism.

Sorry to disagree in favor of the minority who often know what they're doing and why, and think beyond merely the center of the world [you know what I mean]  to consider the entirety of the world and the potential longevity [forever] of the relationship.