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@Casey_Risk
Pie does not have that much influence. Case in point - earlier in this very game when he raising suspicion against Ultra, which immediately got shot down by pretty much everyone. We are actually able to think for ourselves here. Only noobs tend to cling to Pie.
That is ironically one of the points I agree with pie on though lol

It's not merely that you are pursuing your scumreads, it's the way in which you are doing so. You feel a lot more fiery and intense about your scumreads as scum by my recollection.
Interesting you feel that way, I feel that I’ve been pretty calm and logical on the contrary. 
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@Mikal
follow up posts seemed scummy
...so then why was it scummy for the people in your PoE to find those posts scummy? Were you expecting everyone to flip at the exact same point you did when banana accused literally everyone, based on behavioral precedent that happened in a Discord chat none of us saw? It's one thing to change your read on banana, it's another to say that everyone who didn't change their read on banana is scum.

Also apparently you just put everyone who was in your town pile into your scum pile, and that part makes the least sense to me.
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@Casey_Risk
I still think she leans scum overall.

Also you don’t answer my question. I’m just assuming your scum read isn’t going to change no matter what I say, and arguing my innocence isn’t doing me any good with you since you just repeated this. So what do you want so we can move on from this? Claim? Are you willing to consider savant at all based on anything I said? Or what’s your independent read on him?

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I don’t think you read my post very wel 
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@Savant
when banana accused literally everyone
“Accused everyone” what is this nonsense you are spewing?
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@iamanabanana
Mikal said he town read you for accusing everyone who scum read you. Yes, I misused the word literally.
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So what do you want so we can move on from this? Claim? Are you willing to consider savant at all based on anything I said? Or what’s your independent read on him?
I would like your character claim, personally. 

As for Savant, I think he's most likely town. Savant's generally a decent town player but not so great of a scum player, and I don't get any scum vibes from him yet. I like the way he's approaching this game and his thoughts largely mirror my own.
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@Savant
Mikal said he town read you for accusing everyone who scum read you. Yes, I misused the word literally.
The only read I changed was on pie, because he has come to your rescue after you came to his earlier. But what you said actually applies more closely to you. I scum read you, you scum read me back. Mikal scum reads you, you scum read him back. Notice the pattern here?
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I would like your character claim, personally. 
Charles Darwin.
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@iamanabanana
Mikal scum reads you, you scum read him back.
I scum read Mikal before he scum read me.
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I either suck at explaining my thought process or savant didn’t read what I posted at all. 

Did the last post make sense to you or did I not explain it properly 
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@Savant
So your top two scum reads are me and Mikal who were just scum together in a recent game and bussed each other the entire game, and now you think we are a scum team just doing the exact opposite? Lol

Try telling me these reads aren’t fabricated, it’s too funny.
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@iamanabanana
just scum together in a recent game and bussed each other the entire game
You bussed each other at MYLO, not the entire game. I'm also not scum reading you as a team, I just individually think each of you has >rand probability of being scum.
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@Savant
You bussed each other at MYLO, not the entire game. I'm also not scum reading you as a team, I just individually think each of you has >rand probability of being scum.

We did though, he started scum reading me for trying to get town cred with my post asking for soft claims and we went back and forth about it the entire game, he was always my number one lynch target in every read list I posted and vice versa. 

Anyways this game is also about trying to identify teams if we are you two biggest scum reads you should be as a townie considering that we are a team if not you need to reevaluate your reads with that in mind. For example I wouldn’t pair pie with ultra even though I have separate reason to scum read either of them, I could piece together that it would have to be one or the other.

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Anyways I’ll be busy for a bit, but I’ll be on later after work.
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@iamanabanana
he started scum reading me for trying to get town cred with my post asking for soft claims and we went back and forth about it the entire game, he was always my number one lynch target in every read list I posted and vice versa.
If you're a team again, why would you do the same thing you did last time? Everyone knows the trick.

this game is also about trying to identify teams if we are you two biggest scum reads you should be as a townie considering that we are a team if not you need to reevaluate your reads with that in mind
You could both be scum or just one of you, the fact you don't pair super obviously is why my reads on you are a lean at this point. Even if it's just one of you, 50% odds of being scum is > random chance.

Anyways this game is also about trying to identify teams if we are you two biggest scum reads you should be as a townie considering that we are a team if not you need to reevaluate your reads with that in mind. For example I wouldn’t pair pie with ultra even though I have separate reason to scum read either of them, I could piece together that it would have to be one or the other.
This post from you is actually townie. That plus you giving a character claim. I'll read back to see if it outweighs behavior.
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@Mikal
If I was mafia with her, we’d be distancing and I would not be defending her. I just think she is an easy target because she’s new and people are fabricating reads a bit. 
Thats WIFOM.
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Sure but it’s also common sense 
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@Mikal
I either suck at explaining my thought process or savant didn’t read what I posted at all. 

Did the last post make sense to you or did I not explain it properly
No, I get what you're saying. I'll have to think about Banana's character claim a bit. My first instinct is that it's not quite what I would expect for this game. But my second instinct is that it's probably not what I would expect scum to claim.
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@Mikal
Mafia often make gambits that break common sense. Mafia doesn't win by making safe plays because mafia will always lose if town just makes the right calls, so I don't really what you call it.
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Screw it, I'm town reading banana for their claim. Not a lock by any means, but if the theme is autism, and that's looking increasingly likely, then Charles Darwin fits as much as my character. It looks like neither of our characters was diagnosed formally, but there's some speculation they were on the spectrum. If banana was scum I don't know that they would think to fake claim a character like that.
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Thoughts on banana's claim and on Mikal's behavior?
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Charles darwin's autism is highly speculative, so a very odd choice for scum obviously. Banana is firmly in my town pile for now. 
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That puts her with Savant and Pie, everyone else is null 
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On the way home. Will post when back 
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@Savant
It looks like neither of our characters was diagnosed formally, but there's some speculation they were on the spectrum. If banana was scum I don't know that they would think to fake claim a character like that.
Honestly, my thoughts are the same. I think Banana is probably town for that claim.
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I don’t get the scum read on Banana. This sort of aligns with the aggression they saw with me in one of the games. When they get confident they tend to play more aggressive. I actually kinda town read banana and seem to agree with Mikal that one of the people are on the train 
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I’m a bit concerned about the mod kill version of the PM. Seems like a a weird oddity that I’ve never experienced in a game. In fact Speedrace did something similiar where he faked a mod kill to garner town cred so I could 100% buy Wylted is doing this 
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Don’t know how to read savant. Have to do more reading tbh

Slight town on earth but not strong mostly because his town behavior is aligning with his gameplay I’ve seen so far
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Pie seems a bit too eager to jump for claims and calling out others, something similiar to his scum meta. Would also make sense for him to target and push pressure on a new player as scum so I have a slight scum read