Atypical Day Phase 1

I do genuinely believe there was misogyny involved in that.

That and you were using the fact that I was new against me.

Either way that lynch was pretty manipulative. I think you happened to be right that I was scum there, but not for any actual real reasons. That said, all I mentioned is that you mansplaining to me why I am scum when I am town is kind of hilarious.

Because I know I am town, so you trying to tell me otherwise is a bit ridiculous. Put yourself in my shoes and I think you would see what I mean.

I didn't say you specifically. But it's been discussed in this phase to by people that I only pursue soft claims as scum, and I pointed out that it's silly that savant gets towncred over it is all. 

That the thing you are town telling him for isn't a town tell in this game specifically. It doesn't have to be a scum tell either, but at most it's neither.

Tell me you don't think that town block is a little too convenient though? Like do you honestly think mafia don't have one active member, or member who you consider a veteran on it?

It's not that I am trying to break up anyone's town block, but we need to think outside the box here. It would be extremely convenient if all the scum members were just inactives, or barely posting. I guess it's theoretically possible, but I am not going to ignore the behavior of the people who have been active as well, because that feels very narrow-minded.

It could be, but you have to admit this makes it generally harder for him to accomplish lynches, no matter how you spin this. And wylted seems like the type that is usually pretty eager to get the day phase moving when he has his mind made up. You can see that in the bacteria game where he was pushing mharman. Claiming a role like this would be out of character for him. If he is scum, I would actually say that was a clever play by him because it contrasts how he usually plays.

Because why would you assume they wouldn't just read the thread and form their own conclusions?

You tagging people like that feels like you are trying to use your "popularity" and reputation to entice people to take your side.

You don't see me tagging everyone and their dog trying to sell my points. I assume they are grown adults who can read themselves. That's why it feels manipulative, almost like you are trying to capitalize on hoping they are lazy enough to bandwagon you here.

I kind of agree with this, doesn't make sense to have him kill himself if you thought he was scum. I also disagree that making him kill himself just to "test" his role really is smart idea in general. And I just don't see a lot of reason he would come up with a role like that. Wylteds claims are pretty bad I thought, remembering what he did in game show mafia. This one feels very different from that claim.

Wylted would absolutely offer to kill himself as scum. Any good scum player would. Because you are banking on someone town reading that and no follow through. I don’t think in my 10 years of playing with Connor, I ever recall him making a role that results on a mod kill other than once and it was a you can’t type in the dayphase role. 

The voting early and killing yourself makes no sense. He would have the vote not count and if anything would go as far to make it scum sided to show affiliation and role confirmation don’t coordinate. I may be barking up the wrong tree but I do not buy the mod kill portion 

This argument makes no sense to me. Pie posted a thread asking people to compare your behavior in the hopes that people would... Just be too lazy to do so and just vote for you? If he was trying to lean on his own popularity, why not just do exactly that?

Anyways what do you want? Character claim? Role claim? I know how this ends if I don’t comply and I don’t wanna waste time arguing this nonsense and I’d like to go back to focusing on savant so let me know.

The more I look back at her posts, the more opportunistic the behavior seems. I've been scum read as town by town players before, but usually there's at least some logic to the accusation. In banana's case, she seem to be deliberately misinterpreting posts, such as claiming that Mikal was scum reading me and then stopped or criticizing that I null read inactives and then further scum reading me when I mentioned inactives in response to that point.

Oh look at that. savant magically scum reads me now. You going to call that omgus pie or does savant get a pass for that when you accused me of omgus for a much lighter scum tell on you? 

Don’t be a hypocrite now.

so I think one of my other town reads are wrong. Riz reverse engineering the hard town reads and working backwards from that. There is also free pressure on her now. If I were going in order between the 3 of you. 

No, I get what you're saying. I'll have to think about Banana's character claim a bit. My first instinct is that it's not quite what I would expect for this game. But my second instinct is that it's probably not what I would expect scum to claim.

Screw it, I'm town reading banana for their claim. Not a lock by any means, but if the theme is autism, and that's looking increasingly likely, then Charles Darwin fits as much as my character. It looks like neither of our characters was diagnosed formally, but there's some speculation they were on the spectrum. If banana was scum I don't know that they would think to fake claim a character like that.

I don’t get the scum read on Banana. This sort of aligns with the aggression they saw with me in one of the games. When they get confident they tend to play more aggressive. I actually kinda town read banana and seem to agree with Mikal that one of the people are on the train 

Current town pile in order 

Owen 

Anna

Wylted - cus of luna 

You

Casey / savant 

Pie seems a bit too eager to jump for claims and calling out others, something similiar to his scum meta. Would also make sense for him to target and push pressure on a new player as scum so I have a slight scum read

Just to note, I have no desire to claim and prob will just eat the policy lynch 

Interesting, I feel like Vader is actually one of the easier players to read here. I actually found it a little embarrassing in retrospect that I didn't clock him as mafia in the last game I played with him, as it felt fairly obvious in retrospect.

I really don't like how the switch up of Savant to pushing for banana and in a scum read because of behavior to then claiming town because of the claim is not sus to anyone else but it threw me for loop. Normally I am not on omgus timing but that really just flicked a light in my brain

I hard read her as town tbh. I think she misses points sometimes and will go off the rails if she gets frustrated. I’m not going to lie I didn’t read to hard into her responses and it seemed like a bunch of omgus which again is something that I think is a town tell