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Official Vote Count:

Banana- 1/5- Pie
Savant- 1/5- Banana
Wylted- 1/5- Mikal


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@ILikePie5
Alright pie, I know what you are doing and I am not playing your game, because it's blatantly pretty manipulative. First of all you didn't say anything new, you just repeated the same non sense you've been spewing this whole time, not to mention the fact that you keep mis-using the strawman term, and actually ironically using many strawmans yourself. But here's what your hoping to accomplish: You want me to continue this silly back and forth with you so you can propel the argument that I am being "overly defensive" which really never has been the case. I said you "mansplained" one time and I hurt your ego SO bad that your going to head hunt me for the rest of the game over it. I guess you are feeling kind of insecure about it which tells a lot honestly. If this behavior was coming from almost any other player I would scum read it honestly, but because I think you would do this as town, it's honestly null to me. Your defense of savant was really the thing that had bothered me earlier.

Anyways I am not going to engage in bad faith arguments with you because of injured pride, I would really like to move on from this and figure out a good lynch target for the day, so if you want to continue pursuing me I am mostly going to ignore you. If one of my town reads like wylted or casey want me to claim more than I have, I am fine with that. I have never had a problem claiming early, but I do think it's unfair that I almost have to in every game now or I get scum read for not doing it. I think its silly that any change in behavior gets me scum read, when my behavior changes based on how active I can be. I happen to have more time to engage in this game and it's being used against me. There's been times where I even just give in and blindly do whatever you tell me to do because I don't have the time and energy to do exactly what you are doing with me now most of the time, which is why I am subservient in other games. I think that was a mistake and it's bolstered your male power trip a bit, and I will probably refrain from giving you that power in the future over me. I want to grow as a player and I won't do that by being a blind puppy following your orders.

So again I am moving on from this argument, pursue it if you wish, I will just ignore you because I think you enjoy this type of thing a little too much and its a little disturbing.
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I know we still have over half a day left. I am willing to unvote savant for now since that lynch doesn't seem to have much weight behind it, and I would like to move forward as a team and come to some kind conclusion. Plus with savant saying his character also wasn't diagnosed, I can give him some credit for that, because if he was scum he could have just used that argument against me.

Frankly my strongest town reads are casey and Wylted, I don't have mikal townlocked, but I'd also be unwilling to lynch him. I doubt anyone would ever lynch pie, so who would you guys be willing to lynch today? We need to find some common ground somewhere. I don't know where I stand on vaders claim, all I know is that he is claiming he is confirmable so it's probably not the best lynch for us atm. Earth, I don't have any strict problems with your behavior, but you are in the POE and I don't have any solid reason to remove you from it at the moment. Same with ultra. If I had to pick a day phase one lynch it  would have to be within those two. For the record I do think there is at least one mafia player in the active players as well, I have been saying that most of the day but I don't think dp1 is the day we will find out who that is.
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Wanted to ping you guys as well. Not gonna bother pinging pie since hes being obstinate and won't budge off of voting me.
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Official Vote Count:

Banana- 1/5- Pie
Wylted- 1/5- Mikal



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@iamanabanana
If anyone gets to L1 I will just hammer. I am not paying much attention yet
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If anyone gets to L1 I will just hammer.
That just turns every player into hated, so maybe don't automatically hammer.
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@iamanabanana
Frankly my strongest town reads are casey and Wylted, I don't have mikal townlocked, but I'd also be unwilling to lynch him.
When did you start townreading me?
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When did you start townreading me?
When Savant speculated the theme and we realized all our characters were related to autism, I remembered your hesitance to claim your first letter, and just kind of pieced together what the last name first letter meant, and it dawned on me. Plus a couple other hints you dropped about your character makes it feel a bit obvious. That character seems very likely to be  in the game from what little I know of the subject and what we've seen in other claims so far, and I suspect it's more likely town than not based on your resistance to giving too much info about it.
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Right now, this is one of those games where no one feels obviously scummy to me and I can see at least some reason to townread every player, even Earth. He's been a bit sharper and more focused than I've seen him recently, and I like the way he's been engaging in this game. My strongest townreads, however, are Ultra, Wylted, and Savant. The ones who are giving me the weakest reasons to townread them rn are Pie, Earth, and Vader. Mikal is a very mixed bag and I just don't know what to think of him. I'm willing to give Vader a chance for now and see what happens come DP2. If we're going to push someone else for a claim, those two would be my choices. I'm actually leaning towards Pie, and it's largely because of remembering the other reason I was suspicious of him but didn't bring up and briefly forgot about: when we were first openly discussing the theme split, he was leaning towards animal rights, not autism. That might genuinely be nothing, but it might have also been him trying to lead us astray. I think that's worth discussing.
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@iamanabanana
When Savant speculated the theme and we realized all our characters were related to autism, I remembered your hesitance to claim your first letter, and just kind of pieced together what the last name first letter meant, and it dawned on me. Plus a couple other hints you dropped about your character makes it feel a bit obvious. That character seems very likely to be  in the game from what little I know of the subject and what we've seen in other claims so far, and I suspect it's more likely town than not based on your resistance to giving too much info about it.
Fair enough.
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Right now, this is one of those games where no one feels obviously scummy to me and I can see at least some reason to townread every player, even Earth. He's been a bit sharper and more focused than I've seen him recently, and I like the way he's been engaging in this game. My strongest townreads, however, are Ultra, Wylted, and Savant. The ones who are giving me the weakest reasons to townread them rn are Pie, Earth, and Vader. Mikal is a very mixed bag and I just don't know what to think of him. I'm willing to give Vader a chance for now and see what happens come DP2. If we're going to push someone else for a claim, those two would be my choices. I'm actually leaning towards Pie, and it's largely because of remembering the other reason I was suspicious of him but didn't bring up and briefly forgot about: when we were first openly discussing the theme split, he was leaning towards animal rights, not autism. That might genuinely be nothing, but it might have also been him trying to lead us astray. I think that's worth discussing.
I'd be willing to help pressure pie, because ultimately hes still in my null pile. I didn't want to focus on him immediately to prevent bias from out recent argument, but I don't think he really deserves a free pass either just for being a loud voice.

As far as the animal rights viewpoint, I might be a little suspicious if his character doesn't mention anything about animal rights, whereas it seemed clear that it was a factor for wylteds and mikals character based on things they said, so you could be right about it being a mislead.
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Actually pie did say animal rights "fits his character".
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@Mikal
I don’t know man. This seems diff than our scum game is all. It seems geniuine. But it’s just from my interactions with her 
You were the mastermind in that game. The plan was basically yours. She had to execute it.
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I dislike Post 385 from Wylted. What’s even the point of that post?

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@Savant
So you think banana and I are both scum and both chose not to fake claim? I'm not stupid, dude.
Or you just fake claimed undiagnosed people cause it was safer. But you forgot that it also links you two and you were hoping no one would notice
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@ILikePie5
I dislike Post 385 from Wylted. What’s even the point of that post?
It's because it's silly. I don't need a diagnosis that somebody obviously autistic is autistic to put them in that camp if I am creating a game. We need to stick with behavioral analysis. 
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@iamanabanana
So again I am moving on from this argument, pursue it if you wish, I will just ignore you because I think you enjoy this type of thing a little too much and its a little disturbing. 
I enjoy catching scum when I’m playing mafia. Nothing more, nothing less
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If anyone gets to L1 I will just hammer. I am not paying much attention yet
Uh why?
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Right now, this is one of those games where no one feels obviously scummy to me and I can see at least some reason to townread every player, even Earth.
I’m the opposite tbh. I feel like I have reasons to scumread basically everyone

He's been a bit sharper and more focused than I've seen him recently, and I like the way he's been engaging in this game. My strongest townreads, however, are Ultra, Wylted, and Savant. The ones who are giving me the weakest reasons to townread them rn are Pie, Earth, and Vader. Mikal is a very mixed bag and I just don't know what to think of him. I'm willing to give Vader a chance for now and see what happens come DP2. If we're going to push someone else for a claim, those two would be my choices. I'm actually leaning towards Pie, and it's largely because of remembering the other reason I was suspicious of him but didn't bring up and briefly forgot about: when we were first openly discussing the theme split, he was leaning towards animal rights, not autism. That might genuinely be nothing, but it might have also been him trying to lead us astray. I think that's worth discussing.
I responded to Mikal’s theory that it was animal rights vs abusers if I remember correctly. 
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It's because it's silly. I don't need a diagnosis that somebody obviously autistic is autistic to put them in that camp if I am creating a game. We need to stick with behavioral analysis. 
Okay, gun to your head, who would you lynch right now  and why?
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@ILikePie5
Uh why?
I feel like my role is just not a good one to include it's easy to lose interest if I really can't do things like apply pressure. I just have my words which don't hold any power like a vote would. 
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Okay, gun to your head, who would you lynch right now  and why?
Ultra probably. Idk 
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Ultra probably. Idk 
So you just picked his name out of a hat?
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@ILikePie5
Kinda in another thread he insinuated racism is bad and it rubbed me the wrong way. 

But yeah just summarize all your reads for me and I will see what makes sense
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Official Vote Count:

Banana- 1/5- Pie
Wylted- 1/5- Mikal

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Things feel like they are slowing down a bit. I still would like to hear more from ultra and earth.
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Things feel like they are slowing down a bit. I still would like to hear more from ultra and earth.
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Any reads/thoughts on recent developments?
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@iamanabanana
I town read Ultra at the moment, but Earth is in my PoE. I'm fine pushing for more activity, but both of these players tend to give short posts and not many of them. At best we maybe get a claim, and then we'll have to decide off of that.