Are you intellectually honest?

       How intellectually honest do you think you are when discussing issues in politics and society as a whole. In my years of living I have learned that knowing the cause and effect of just about everything is unknowable. The news is worthless, the govt is worthless, people in general are worthless when it comes to getting any accurate information about anything. No matter the topic or issue it seams there is a 50/50 polar opposite view point. How can this be? Someone is being intellectually dishonest. I personally have just checked out of it all. I watch what  what people do and look at the results of their actions. Their words from the outset before their actions mean little to nothing in the way of what they will actually do. I use these pre action words as a measure as to how much of a lying sack of shit they are when their actions don't match their words. When the actions have been taken and the results don't match what they say the results should be, this tells me they never knew what the fuck they were talking about in the first place. I am being intellectually honest when I say I don't have a fucking clue as to what is going on outside my front door or with in my inner circle of associates and half of what I think I know about that isn't what I think it is. I have come to the conclusion there is no solution to anything. All there is, is bullying, lying, deception and corruption. He who is better at all four dictates for the day figuratively speaking. Those people can suck shit out of my ass, they will never serve a useful purpose in my life, not ever. All I can do is steam roll anyone and everyone who gets in my way of earning a living the best way I can without breaking the law or going to prison. 

     People generally never try to do this because of the way I carry myself. I will call your BS instantly and that scares off 99% of the intellectually dishonest worthless users. 

In closing I know nothing and wouldn't even begin to say that I do. There are no intellectual honest sources of news or information. Every news source without exception is biased and to choose a source would make me biased and misinformed. Yes there are things that can be believed like massive disasters and the like. But even those will just degrade into intellectually dishonest discussions about who to blame and cause and effect.

No.

  Fuck Yeah!

A lot of people lie alot to make fake friends. Just look at most of the people here.

Being honest is sometimes illegal.

I think 'honesty' is misunderstood by many. It doesn't matter if you are bullshitting. So long as you express what you really think. I don't expect a texas rancher to not bullshit about the economy. Why would he know anything about the economy. But using it as an excuse to vote for trump when the real reason is only because you do not want foreigners in the country...That's what i call dishonesty. It would be better to admit being an anti-immigration racist. Then, one would only be a bad person. But a bad and dishonest person? C'monC'mon now! 

Hey, I'm not an illegal immigrant!

Many intellectual hypocritical dishonest folks on this site. 

But it's to be expected. Some that were wholesome have said deuces.

A lot of people say it's impossible to be honest wen talking about legal immigration, but there are people who genuineely feel that there is no such thing as being an illegal migrant, regardless of what the law says. So neither you or the rancher is being dishonest.

There is a modern trend of going 'paha I am so ignorant oh look at me so humble so ill informed and aelf aware about it ooh me so honest so cool so slick with my igorance mhmm.'

You did it in the OP.

Many religious streamers do it about trans issues (even if their own family member is trans or detrans).

Tyler1 stabbed his gf in the back and lied about being against trans people and did the whole pahahaj whaaaat I dont care what you are, gold black brown male female hrlicopter duhhh idk anything im so zen like yaaaa idk enough to take either side like uh yh I can google youtube or ask my own gf about why she is against it oh yeaaaaah'

And the fans lapped it up and solely cancelled his gf, demonising her while celebrating his devoted ignorance.

This strategy is a result of things like cancel culture. By 'like' I mean if you fear your true opinion about Buddhism, someone's famous relative/friend, a car brand someone may hold desr etc when cornered and ask then the safe way out is 'pahahaja idk enough and to not go home search it and text, email or all to tell them your real opinion but keep lying, evading and gaslighting if need be because the truth would make enemies with him/her and rumours would spead and lead to even more enemies.

There is nothing at all admirable about wilful ignorance. It is okay to admit it, but be ashamed. Learn. Educate yourself. Try.

In forums, I strive to be intellectually honest always. 

"There is nothing at all admirable about wilful ignorance. It is okay to admit it, but be ashamed. Learn. Educate yourself. Try."

And where should I go to educate my self on the pressing issues of politics and society? Please do tell all of us your sources that don't misinform. You seem to think you know something.

I do not express my opinion about things I have not thought and read about a lot. When I do have an opinion, you bet it has been tempered in fire and I am well ready to defend it. And in discussions I am much more interested in the logical structure of the arguments than conclusions. If you are arguing that Hitler was the best leader in human history and I do not see any holes in your argument, then you will have earned my deep respect.

But nobody is perfect. I may be in a bad mood, or have some insecurity poked by another's argument... Even then I will not twist their words, but I might relax the standards I apply to my reasoning and make some sloppy arguments.

As an example, I once argued that the success of the South-Korean economy was chiefly caused by the market reforms of the 90-s, while my opponent argued that the dictatorship of the 80-s laid its foundation. I quickly realized that I was outclassed: my opponent had a very deep knowledge of the Korean history and economy, while I only had superficial one. I would admit it normally, but the guy also had a very dirty mouth and said a couple of things that set me off... And I kept dismissing his points as irrelevant, even though they were not.

I still think he was wrong, and I know much better why now - but that does not excuse my behavior there. If I know that at the moment I have no chance of making a sound argument and defending it from criticism, then I should just say so and move on.

The rancher uses economic jargon to excuse his racist ideas. That's dishonesty right there. 

If you haven't been banned recently you are intellectually honest.

Nobody is intellectually honest. Man isn't the rational animal, he's the rationalizing animal. Every single person who has ever lived has had their understanding bound by mores and customs that were themselves bound to a specific time and place, and every person's thoughts were completely contextualized by their surroundings. The march of technology isn't the constant adding of new knowledge, we also forget and leave things behind. Human knowledge is in motion and it also decays. Even one person could spend an entire lifetime leaning the nuances of one little piece of land, and his whole lifetime of knowledge might be summed up in a couple of lines in an obscure technical manual if he's lucky, most of it will go with him into the grave.

"There is, it seems to us,

I think Einstein would have disagreed with you.

I think I'm highly self-aware and other-aware owing to having grown up with a whole bunch of hardened criminals and one honest-to-god psychopath. TBH. Funny one, I think. I am fairly unbeatable at games like poker and I think mafia I've shown myself to be pretty good at on here also. I think I was always decently clever on top of that, but that's been dulled over the years by repeated blows to the head, chemical as well as physical. I dunno, I think I've always been good at seeing through it all to the why a person says or does whatever. I think I understand where my own values and opinions come from too and I'm proud in it tbh. I think I have an easy time of it though. Not spiteful or jealous. Was plenty loved as a kid, plenty loved now. Had plenty of ability. Never saw an inadequacy in myself for it grow and fester in my mind. Most of the wrong opinions in the world belong to ugly virgins. Honesty comes easy when you're not that. 

Relative to the internet as source of information, I am I.H. in the sense that 99.9...% of info accessible on the internet is is very high-percentile bullshyte simply because anyone knowledgeable of interaction in cyberspace can post bullshyte that must be carefully substantiated by multiple-source investigation, and most people simply lack the time sufficient to do so. Time is the enemy of satisfactorily navigating and negotiating the academia of the internet.