Star Wars OT movies are better than the movies after.

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Discuss. 
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I think it's hard if you grew up with the OT to not favor them. I like the low key effects before the edit later. I like the story and the flow of the movies. I will say that Rogue One was amazing. I loved the pace, action and story line. 
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I watched RoTS when I was young, but I prefer the OT. I think the PT made some questionable choices and it shows. Still good movies though.
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I think the worse part of the movies is Darth Vader's back story. I really felt like they made him a spoiled, whiny brat and not an evil sociopath until the very end. 
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If it wasn't for Star Wars episode 1 "The Phantom Menace" I would agree but that movie was bad azz.
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TPM was bad azz? Could you explain why?

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Of course! it was a great movie, great story, had an excellent villain and one of my favorite characters in a movie Qui-Gon-Jinn.....played by Liam Neeson, was there any reason you did not like the movie?
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Actually, I thought Maul was the best PT villain, so no objection there.

I just thought it was a little boring and Anakin's and Padme's relationship was a touch creepy.
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LOL, I didn't notice. I'm not objecting that the OT was better, just that particular movie was worthy of the older ones. Maybe you should watch it again, it's pretty cool.
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can we talk about Rian Johnson, the unappreciated genius?
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Johnson is a genius?
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Johnson is a genius?

It takes a staggeringly high IQ to understand his plot concepts, which means his thinking is several orders of magnitude greater than our own.
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty
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As a person who grew up exposed more to the Prequel rather than Original Trilogy, I would disagree with that (I would just like to add also that Jar Jar Binks was not nearly enough to ruin an entire three movies).
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Meh, I'm mostly shitposting, but Jar Jar is the Ewoks, but over three movies.
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I did hate Jar Jar Binks though lol
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The only movie of the 6 I thought was terribly done was the first one made (the fourth in the storyline) etc. So no, I don't agree.

The best 'three' or 'batch' I agree is not this new nonsense with Kylo Ren etc. that's far too little story and far too much action. The best were the second-made trilogy (first in the storyline).

For me, the second one (the one where dooku cuts Anakin's arm etc) was so phenomenal at showing the corrupt side of the Jedis. In all movies other than the Clone Wars, it's never EVER made apparent that the Jedis are the original tyrants and oligarchs and that the term 'rebel' for the 'other side' in later movies is so incredibly Ironic. 

Jedis are fundamentally Sharia Law and the Ottoman Empire in ethos but an alternate version where impregnating is outlawed etc as they are able to recruit.

Sith are fundamentally Stalin's Communism combined with some anarcho-communist idealists among them (Anakin always was one deep down and this is what inspired him to turn on Palpatine in the end).
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Padme and Anakin's romance was cringeworthy for me. All his tantrums and creepy leering.
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Attack of the Clones not clone wars** also i meant the side of luke skywalker etc by 'other side' and meant relative to the new regime
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I'm suprised the Jedi let Anakin within 500 feet of Padme.

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Agreed. I think one of the main problems with the prequels was that they coukdnt distinguish between presenting us with a flawed character and just giving us an unpleasant, whiney shit. Anakin should have been flawed but good underneath. Instead they just made him a dumb brat which took away some of the emotional payoff when he finally turns in ep 3.
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I think Jar Jar isnt even in the top 10 worst things wrong with the prequels. Fight me irl!
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Agreed. I think one of the main problems with the prequels was that they coukdnt distinguish between presenting us with a flawed character and just giving us an unpleasant, whiney shit. Anakin should have been flawed but good underneath. Instead they just made him a dumb brat which took away some of the emotional payoff when he finally turns in ep 3.
Oh my god yes.

It seems like a mistake any good writer would have spotted. It's a mystery to me how that script got past final edit like that.
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Id venture to guess that Lucas had enough creative control over the final version to get away with it. Say what you will about the new SW films but theyre much more responsive to genuine criticism than the studio was with Lucas at ths helm.