trump listed, by experts, as worst president in history

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    this is according to the 170 expert members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out the survey

    questions, comments, words of wisdom?
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    even the scholars who are considered republican, put trump in the bottom five. 
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    even the scholars who are considered republican, put trump in the bottom five. 

    What reasons are they giving?
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    Honestly, I agree with you here Stephen. How the fuck is he worse than Reagan or Nixon?

    Oh, I guess we disagree there. ;)

    Not to mention daddy and son Bush, Bush Jr. was pitiful on every level.

    As for Dems, I'd put Trump above a couple of Dems, won't specify which and no not above Obama or even Bill Clinton.
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    The same people that are condemning Trump before his term is up are the same people that awarded Obama the nobel prize before he could wage 8 years of war.
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    The new wave of indoctrinated democrats from the universities are ready to eat Obama and his legacy.

    RIP Obama.

    It's a good thing indoctrinated political science hacks don't choose who gets to be president. Might have a Soros puppet in the office.
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    The same people that are condemning Trump before his term is up are the same people that awarded Obama the nobel prize before he could wage 8 years of war.

    Gotcha.  It is as your  link says. It is all down to an attitude of; 

    “If Trump’s for it, I’ve got to be against it.” 
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    ah yes those mystical "experts"  I got more of my own money from the I.R.S. this year, about double last year.....  These "experts" don't pay my wages or my bills so fk them.  Except for the bump stock ban Trump isn't trying to infringe on my rights.  I could go on but I'm not expert.
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    To the University elites, the best presidents are the ones handing out the most tax funded grants and anything to increase the quality of life for tenured academia.

    Your stocks don't matter to them in their opinion calculus.
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    --> @Greyparrot
    The same people that are condemning Trump before his term is up are the same people that awarded Obama the nobel prize before he could wage 8 years of war.
    Condeming based on evidence of;

    1} lack of moral ---grab strange wome by pussy beause were a celibrity--, oh yeah morals dont matter to G-Parrot,

    2} lack of morals for the highest number of lies he has told prior to being elected and after far more than any president in history,

    3} lack of nobel prize for encouraging Kin Uung Pooh to come into world stage of acceptance,

    4} denial of so many obvious truth ---ex example denial Russis hacked USA political systems--- and stated he trust Putin more than USA intelligence,

    5} OMG, the number of people who have come and gone under his administration is far higher than any other president  --some for crimes most not--- and that number is just within first 2 years,

    6} cruel immoral treatment of immingrants parents and children at southern border, ---many children may never ever be reunited with their parents---

    7}  more lies regarding Stormy { love rabbit } and Karen { Love Bunny },

    8} OMG the list goes on and on and on.....................................

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    1} lack of moral ---grab strange wome by pussy beause were a celibrity--, oh yeah morals dont matter to G-Parrot,
    Don't live with Sharia law or a Theocracy..your criteria sucks.

    2} lack of morals for the highest number of lies he has told prior to being elected and after far more than any president in history,
    Don't live with Sharia law or a Theocracy..your criteria sucks.

    3} lack of nobel prize for encouraging Kin Uung Pooh to come into world stage of acceptance,
    American Government is not run from Sweden. Your criteria sucks.

    4} denial of so many obvious truth ---ex example denial Russia hacked USA political systems--- and stated he trust Putin more than USA intelligence,

    Skepticism of government elites is healthy to a functioning Democracy....your criteria sucks.

    5} OMG, the number of people who have come and gone under his administration is far higher than any other president  --some for crimes most not--- and that number is just within first 2 years,
    Cabinet positions should be jobs, not political appointments for favors as is traditional in a crony government...your criteria sucks.

    6} cruel immoral treatment of immigrants parents and children at southern border, ---many children may never ever be reunited with their parents---
    That's a problem with crappy judges with the Flores decision. Trump has nothing to do with the judicial branch...your criteria sucks.

    7}  more lies regarding Stormy { love rabbit } and Karen { Love Bunny },
    Stormy paid Trump's lawyers hundreds of thousands of dollars...Creepy porn lawyer is in jail...your criteria sucks.

    8} OMG the list goes on and on and on.....................................
    Lol...your criteria sucks.
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    Lol...your criteria sucks.
    Trump and Trumpanzees are not a laughing matter, unless you primary job is comedian.

    That you find the truth I presented to you offensive ergo, your "criterial sucks"  remarks, is insignifcant and incorrect assesment on your part.

    No surprises there.

    In one ear, ---> { * T * } then a Trumpanzee white wash of truth with false assessments , then,

    out the other ear { * T * }--->  and were were back to truth as presented to you.

    White wash See Tom Sawyer LINK..."to prevent people from learning the truth about (something bad, such as a dishonest, immoral, or illegal act or situation) chiefly British"..
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    You are funny.

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    You are funny.
    +2.5 --M-Tard-- Funny and presenter of truth to this thread and many others


    -10 ---G-Parrot-- not funny, less morality, less interested in truth, less empathetic compassion to humanity in general etc

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    Pretty much every President from FDR on was the worst for putting the government in charge of the economy, and destroying private charities, like that's always worked in history.
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    --> @Greyparrot
    It's a good thing indoctrinated political science hacks don't choose who gets to be president.
    Yeah, but if it was them picking we would be in a slightly better position bc it would mean finally the people get to pick presidents. Right now, only the 1% can pick presidential candidates. We can't get anything done until we can pick who we want running the country for us... not the 1%'s interests. Tweedism is what it's called currently if i remember correctly. 

    On this topic however... i agree with all you guys. Who are these so called experts? And why is Trump triggering them so badly? Honestly, one reason i hope he loses is bc Trumps the type to get out of office and write a book about his whole time as president... that book would make so so much money... i can't wait to read it.  

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    trump isn't much of a writer. he'd probably have someone else write the book for him. 
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    No president writes their own books.
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    What Grey said... who writes their own books nowadays? Probably like 10% of writers maybe... everyone got them that ghostwriter. 
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    5} OMG, the number of people who have come and gone under his administration is far higher than any other president  --some for crimes most not--- and that number is just within first 2 years,
    Not to mention the most ever unfilled positions, because people are afraid of what their getting into with Trump.

    It is so bad that Trump repeatedly fills these positions with..'the worst people'... not .."the best people".. as he as repeatedly an falsely claimed

    Ex Herman Cains 9-9-9 plan has been proposed by Trump jokingly  --or not--   for immigration plan at border and no one found in funny.

    ...."Most economists agree that a national sales tax would raise the relative tax burden on low- and middle-income earning taxpayers.

    "The main reason is that low- and middle-income households consume more of their income than high-income households do," said William Gale, senior fellow for economic studies at the Brookings Institution. "Another way of saying that is high-income households save more of their income than low-income households do.".....

    Just more of those of in wealth and power trying to immorally stick it to the poor and middle-class. Sad :---(

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    1} lack of moral ---grab strange women by pussy beause were a celibrity--, oh yeah morals dont matter to G-Parrot,

    2} lack of morals for the highest number of lies he has told prior to being elected and after far more than any president in history,

    3} lack of nobel prize for encouraging Kin Uung Pooh to come into world stage of acceptance,

    4} denial of so many obvious truth ---ex example denial Russis hacked USA political systems--- and stated he trust Putin more than USA intelligence,


    6} cruel immoral treatment of immingrants parents and children at southern border, ---many children may never ever be reunited with their parents---

    7}  more lies regarding Stormy { love rabbit } and Karen { Love Bunny },

    8} OMG the list goes on and on and on.....................................


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    Good. If you're afraid, then you shouldn't stay in the kitchen.
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    Good. If you're afraid, then you shouldn't stay in the kitchen.
    Yes, fear can be a good thing.  So can truth and you appear to fear truth as a vampire fears sunlight.

    The list of truths you avoid is longer than the list of people who have come and gone in the Trump adminstration.

    Heard yesterday that Mnuchin may have broken the law in not allowing IRS to make Trumps taxes available to the chairperson of ....?
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    Ex Herman Cains 9-9-9 plan has been proposed by Trump jokingly  --or not--   for immigration plan at border and no one found in funny.

    ...."Most economists agree that a national sales tax would raise the relative tax burden on low- and middle-income earning taxpayers.

    "The main reason is that low- and middle-income households consume more of their income than high-income households do," said William Gale, senior fellow for economic studies at the Brookings Institution. "Another way of saying that is high-income households save more of their income than low-income households do.".....

    Just more of those of in wealth and power trying to immorally stick it to the poor and middle-class. Sad :---(

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    1} lack of moral ---grab strange women by pussy beause were a celibrity--, oh yeah morals dont matter to G-Parrot,

    2} lack of morals for the highest number of lies he has told prior to being elected and after far more than any president in history,

    3} lack of nobel prize for encouraging Kin Uung Pooh to come into world stage of acceptance,

    4} denial of so many obvious truth ---ex example denial Russis hacked USA political systems--- and stated he trust Putin more than USA intelligence,


    6} cruel immoral treatment of immingrants parents and children at southern border, ---many children may never ever be reunited with their parents---

    7}  more lies regarding Stormy { love rabbit } and Karen { Love Bunny },

    8} OMG the list goes on and on and on.....................................

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    Once the country goes down the road of the banana republics that allow government elites to shake down political candidates using the force of government law agencies and other agencies, there will be no going back.
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    once all the entitlement offers are exhausted, what then?  I mean they've gotten to the point of "reparations"  Government housing for all?  mandatory?  except for the elites of course.  Just like Obama care, they didn't want any part of the crap.  All the garbage they propose is for the rest of us, not them.  that's what it takes to make a president great apparently, empty promises of more entitlements and free stuff.  Lower unemployment and taxes don't matter to those elites.  Unemployment and taxes will never affect Trump and yet he thinks it's important.  His family will never be poor unless they somehow mess it up.  So these things he is fixing will never bother him or his family.  Which then asks they question who is he doing all this for?  The rest of us.