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    Any ideas guys?
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    Any ideas guys?


    Ilhan Omar: The 9/11 row embroiling the US congresswoman

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    Don't listen to Stephen. He doesn't know what he is talking about.
    Talk about private healthcare vs public healthcare
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    A Democratic congresswoman says she will not be silenced after facing a barrage of criticism over comments she made about the 9/11 attacks - including from Donald Trump.
    The US president tweeted "WE WILL NEVER FORGET" alongside a video showing footage of the 11 September 2001 terrorist attacks spliced with a speech by Representative Ilhan Omar.
    "Some people did something," she is seen saying, in between footage of planes hitting the Twin Towers and people fleeing the buildings.
    Republicans have accused her of downplaying the attacks, but Democrats have largely rallied to her defence, saying she had been quoted out of context and some accusing Mr Trump of inciting violence against her and Muslims. Here is how the row developed.

    Republicans have accused her of downplaying the attacks,

    And the accusations are valid as this is what all apologist for Islam do. The  muslim Mayor of London Mr Sadiq Khan, downplayed attacks on the city by stating that;
     
     terror attacks are now "‘part and parcel’ of living in a big city", -  as if we had to simply accept this and get used to it. 
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    "Some people did something,"
    This is correct. The intolerable right really show themselves here. A statement reduced to A was done my B is worth crying about? Stephen you really need to try to have this level of vitriol against Trump but sadly you are unaware about the UK being a Monarchy and the Queen being able to declare war so I don't I will get a reasonable approach from you.
    Republicans have accused her of downplaying the attacks,
    It depends on what they mean by downplay. Who are the Republicans for being the arbiters of truth when they are the party of anti-science? Climate Change with overwhelming evidence they don't take position that humans have a big impact and they've people who believe in Young Earth and deny Evolution only to have as their evidence a book that doesn't prove anything. 
     terror attacks are now "‘part and parcel’ of living in a big city", -  as if we had to simply accept this and get used to it. 
    Awful comments. What was I supposed to make an excuse of this? 
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    The tweet is stupid. The phrase was intended to portray ordinary American citizens as having nothing to do with the problems associated with them by their fellow citizens.  The statement was appropriately vague because theoretically the ignorant fear could be coming from anything, and in a real life experience you wouldn't really understand why strange people are treating you strangely in their ignorant fear, not at first.  In the original context Trump would have made a fine actor-buffoon exemplifying a problem being addressed in the subject matter.  It comes off as self-denigrating and hypocritical. 


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    Whether the republicans should oust Trump in 2020

    Pros
     - 8 more Years
     - Potentially deflating the democratic strategy 
     - Less turd polishing, fresh start
     - Trump could prove disastrous in an economic downturn 
       (and we are in one of the longest cycles in history)
     - Detaching the party image from Trump liability
     - Standing for something besides winning

    Con
     - The Bernie Effect
     - Loss of Name Recognition 
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    What is the Bernie effect?
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    Some people contend that Bernie Sander's campaign contributed to the loss of Hillary Clinton in 2016, somehow dissuading independent votes.  

    I think internal corruption within the party combined with the external image of anointing Hillary Clinton was the primary causation, but in addition Bernie Sanders being a rather sincere independent didn't help in contrast, and the extreme views surrounding him are argued associatively as a movement within the democratic party.
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    The oblique Nature of Clinton's politics coming off the tail end of the Obama administration also didn't lend well to the perceptive possibility that socialism is the real future democrats ultimately have in store, perhaps wiping the last great hope away for America, and the world...the end of a chapter, the conclusion of our experiment.
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     Stephen you really need to try to have this level of vitriol against Trump

    I have no "vitriol against " the great and brilliant Donald Trump. I think Donald trump is the Greatest President Great Britain  never had, you silly little man. If I was a child , I would wish that Donald Trump was our Prime Minister.

    Now, take your time, and  show me MY "vitriol against Trump", you buffoon.
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    I have no "vitriol against " the great and brilliant Donald Trump.
    Cut the taxes for the rich. Cut social security. Is that what you mean by "brilliant"?
    Now, take your time, and  show me MY "vitriol against Trump", you buffoon.
    I said you don't have the same "vitriol against Trump" and from what said you don't.
    Do tell me how Trump is "brilliant".