Death to the world

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    “The man who has come to hate the world has escaped sorrow. But he who has attachment to anything visible is not yet delivered from grief. For how is it possible not to be sad at the loss of something we love?”
    ~ Saint John Climacus

    “For when you realize that the result of fame, pleasure, indulgence, wealth and prosperity is naught, since death and decay await them, then you will recognize the blatant vanity of all things worldly and will turn your eyes to the consummation of things divine. You will cleave to the realities that truly exist and cannot perish; and, making these things your own, you will rise above pain and pleasure.”
    ~ Saint Nikitas Stithatos

    “Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world – the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life – is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever”
    ~ Saint John the theologian


    “The world is the general name for all the passions. When we wish to call the passions by a common name, we call them the world. But when we wish to distinguish them by their special names, we call them the passions. The passions are the following: love of riches, desire for possessions, bodily pleasure from which comes sexual passion, love of honour which gives rise to envy, lust for power, arrogance and pride of position, the craving to adorn oneself with luxurious clothes and vain ornaments, the itch for human glory which is a source of rancour and resentment, and physical fear. Where these passions cease to be active, there the world is dead; for though living in the flesh, they did not live for the flesh. See for which of these passions you are alive. Then you will know how far you are alive to the world, and how far you are dead to it.”
    ~ Saint Isaac the Syrian



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    You are going to have the BEST life when you die FULL STOP
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    Jam tomorrow!
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    "They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy."

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    Do you realise that we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet? Your fantasy of everlasting life must therefore apply to everything that has ever evolved on this planet, is that your position? It makes your beliefs very inane.
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    "For the ungodly said, reasoning with themselves, but not aright, Our life is short and tedious, and in the death of a man there is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave.
    For we are born at all adventure: and we shall be hereafter as though we had never been: for the breath in our nostrils is as smoke, and a little spark in the moving of our heart:
    Which being extinguished, our body shall be turned into ashes, and our spirit shall vanish as the soft air,
    And our name shall be forgotten in time, and no man shall have our works in remembrance, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, that is driven away with the beams of the sun, and overcome with the heat thereof.
    For our time is a very shadow that passeth away; and after our end there is no returning: for it is fast sealed, so that no man cometh again.
    Come on therefore, let us enjoy the good things that are present: and let us speedily use the creatures like as in youth.
    Let us fill ourselves with costly wine and ointments: and let no flower of the spring pass by us:
    Let us crown ourselves with rosebuds, before they be withered:
    Let none of us go without his part of our voluptuousness: let us leave tokens of our joyfulness in every place: for this is our portion, and our lot is this.
    Let us oppress the poor righteous man, let us not spare the widow, nor reverence the ancient gray hairs of the aged.
    Let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble is found to be nothing worth.
    Therefore let us lie in wait for the righteous; because he is not for our turn, and he is clean contrary to our doings: he upbraideth us with our offending the law, and objecteth to our infamy the transgressings of our education.
    He professeth to have the knowledge of God: and he calleth himself the child of the Lord.
    He was made to reprove our thoughts.
    He is grievous unto us even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, his ways are of another fashion.
    We are esteemed of him as counterfeits: he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: he pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh his boast that God is his father.
    Let us see if his words be true: and let us prove what shall happen in the end of him.
    For if the just man be the son of God, he will help him, and deliver him from the hand of his enemies.
    Let us examine him with despitefulness and torture, that we may know his meekness, and prove his patience.
    Let us condemn him with a shameful death: for by his own saying he shall be respected.
    Such things they did imagine, and were deceived: for their own wickedness hath blinded them.
    As for the mysteries of God, they knew them not: neither hoped they for the wages of righteousness, nor discerned a reward for blameless souls.
    For God created man to be immortal, and made him to be an image of his own eternity.
    Nevertheless through envy of the devil came death into the world: and they that do hold of his side do find it."
    ~From The Wisdom of Solomon


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    Care to respond?

    Do you realise that we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet? Your fantasy of everlasting life must therefore apply to everything that has ever evolved on this planet, is that your position? It makes your beliefs very inane.
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    I am sure you will find whatever I say to be inane, so maybe it would be better for both of us if we didn't waste our time.

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    Do you realise that we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet? 

    Lets see your evidence for that outrageous claim, then. Better still start a thread of your own on the subject. Let's see what it is you really know and understand about the "evolutionary process".
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    Read a book you nonce.
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    Do you realise that we have ? 

    Lets see your evidence for that outrageous claim, then. Better still start a thread of your own on the subject. Let's see what it is you really know and understand about the "evolutionary process". 

    Read a book you nonce.
    Just as I knew, you don't know a damn thing that about , well , anything do you. Start a thread on why it is you believe that mankind  
    "evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet".  

    Or are just trolling a thread for your own entertainment.
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    Read a book you nonce.

    How fkn DARE! you use such a filthy derogatory term against me. I have had warnings for calling people  "clowns" and suggesting that they are "stupid" ! BUT YOU can get away with derogatory vile comments such as the above. You really are a disgraceful vile human being who has no place on a open forum.

    Used by prison staff, to explain the segregation of inmates who were convicted of sex crimes towards children and the other inmates 


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    Crawl back under your rock.
    And read a book
    Regardless of what your pretend friend allegedly says, Evolution is real.
    Read a book
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  • (Britain, slang) A stupid or worthless person.
    Shut it, ya nonce!

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    The defiled intellect is not only overcome by the world, it takes pride in its weakness. To be a slave of the world is to be tossed to and fro by the passions. 



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    More IPSS rubbish.hahahaha
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    Do you realise that we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet? 

    Lets see your evidence for that outrageous claim, then. Better still start a thread of your own on the subject. Let's see what it is you really know and understand about the "evolutionary process". 

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    Read a book, it's a well documented theory.
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     it's a well documented theory.


    So it's only a theory. And where is your support for this "theory". 

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    He wants it explained and immediately proves he can't understand the words that would entail such an explanation. Can you give my sinker back?
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    He wants it explained and immediately proves he can't understand the words

    So you make a stupid unsupported statement here:

    Do you realise that we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet? 
    And then expect others to come up with the evidence that supports your claim for you.  LOL what a complete and utter filthy vile  joke, you are. 
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    It must feel terrible to be constantly made a fool of, do see someone about that. BTW look up scientific theory. bwuahahahahahahaha
    The evidence is widely available.
    Read a book.
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     it's a well documented theory.


    So it's only a theory. And where is your support for this "theory". 


    Read a book.
    So that's a no then. You have no evidence for you preposterous claim but demand others provide evidence and citations. LOL Hahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahah

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    The ToE is my evidence. It's a well known theory. The evidence is overwhelming. Read a book.
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    You didn't take my advice and examine the definition of scientific theory and are therefore not capable of discussing such. Your willfull ignorance is astounding. Cue spit and dribble.