How Did You Become An Atheist?

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You have demonstrated that in no way. Your big  argument is because ultimate reality clearly exists. This is not logic. This is indoctrination.  An acceptance of beliefs without critique. You go right ahead but no thanks
--> @WyseGui
Proving to you that there is an ultimate reality would be a lot like proving to you that it is true that there is truth.


You are making an unreasonable request. If you deny ultimate reality, you have no ground to stand on.

To be frank, if you truly know what ultimate reality means, and you question its existence, you're a complete idiot. 


You are mistaken to think I am insulting you for calling you ignorant. It would be a much bigger insult if I accepres that you understood what you are saying. If you understand what you are saying, thst means you are crazy.








--> @Mopac
What is even crazier is that you think what you just said makes sense. You would never have to prove that it is true that there is truth. To anyone. Every statement a person makes is either true or false. This is self-evident. Not what you are saying. I can google Ultimate Reality and get a answer. In fact I have. I just wanted you to explain it. But cognitive dissonance is rooted deeply in your psyche. And it looks like you want to hide behind "it can't be explained". Like a child with a secret. and who said they question there existence? You are literally making stuff up. If thats all you had, Im done.


--> @WyseGui
You are very wrong, and very haughty.

You are still loved.
"The earth is great, heaven is high, and the sun is swift in its course, for it revolves around the heaven in a circle and returns to its place in one day. Is not He great who made all things? For His truth is greater and stronger than all things. All the earth summons the truth, and heaven blesses it; for all his works shake with fear and tremble, and there is nothing unjust with Him. But wine is unjust, the king is unjust, women are unjust, all the children of the men and their works are unjust, and all such things are unjust; for there is no truth in them. So they will perish in their injustice.

But the truth abides and is strong forever. The truth lives and rules unto ages of ages. There is no partiality or prejudice with the truth, but it does righteous things, distinct from all wrongdoings and evil. All are please with its deeds, and there is nothing unjust in its judgement. For strength, dominion, authority, and majesty belong to it unto all ages, and blessed is the God of truth."


--> @Mopac
Gibberish.
--> @Mopac
No it's not.
--> @WyseGui
What is even crazier is that you think what you just said makes sense.
And, Mopac trolls yet another one, unabated. Hilarious what others are allowed to get away with here. Incompetent moderation strikes again.

--> @Goldtop
That is unfortunate. I look at some of his other posts and gave him the benefit of the doubt, but yea I see it now. Guys ill just have to avoid this in the future.
--> @WyseGui
No not reality. Putting words in my mouth again. I am definitely here as far as I can tell. Just denying your ridiculously unfounded claims. You also use reality and Ultimate Reality interchangeably, which implies you don't really know what you are talking about. As I said, wall of logic. 
I've done this.

Eventually they'll say, "epignosis".

And then you might ask, how do I access this?

Then they'll say, "introspection".

As far as I can tell, "The Ultimate Reality" is indistinguishable from Kant's noumenon.
--> @WyseGui
That is unfortunate. I look at some of his other posts and gave him the benefit of the doubt, but yea I see it now. Guys ill just have to avoid this in the future.
You can blame the incompetent moderation team here, they have absolutely no clue how to run a forum, they not only allow, but they protect and nurture trolls like Mopac to run amok here, that's how bad it is here.



--> @Goldtop, @3RU7AL, @WyseGui
Trolling is a fishing term.


What is a fisher of men?



I am hated without a cause. I feel no guilt.
--> @Mopac
I don't think anyone HATES you. They are just jerks who enjoy picking on others.
--> @janesix
Oh, it's hate. If goldtop had his way, I'd even be banned. It's hate 


But they hate me to fulfill what was said by Christ...


"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you."



--> @Mopac
I don't know you or care enough to hate you. Your just annoying. You engage with me as if you intend on debating my beliefs, but instead start teaching and preaching. Putting words in my mouth purposely manipulating my replies to fit your narrative, and insulting me along the way. Now I can show you every example of this if you don't believe it. This all started when I asked what your great sound reasoning was and you literally asked me to say the "magic words" before you'd tell me.You got to understand how ridiculous that is to someone who is debating. I am not a child and I am not here for games.

Not only that but the sound logic and reasoning you at first withheld but finally revealed was basically because "of course it exists". Which literally takes zero logic and reasoning. And apparently I am haughty for not accepting that. The shear hypocrisy of it all. You throw out all these assertions, offer no grounding for any of it, and call me an idiot, crazy, a fool and of course haughty for not accepting this apodictic truth. Not even normal truth.

Keep in mind, even if you believe I'm at fault somehow, everything I wrote here is still accurate.The name of the site is Debateart.That's what people do here. Thats what I tried to do. If that isn't you intention make it clear. But your superior, mysterious, holier than thou attitude has been preeminent. You don't deserve any sympathy.

--> @WyseGui
Tl;dr

--> @Mopac
Yea, that is the point. 
--> @WyseGui

I'm not interested in your passion filled rants.

The ultimate reality.

That is what we need to discuss.

How do you justify denying the undeniable?







It should be obvious that there is a reality that ties all realities together. A reality that gives all other realities their existence. A reality that is persistent. A reality that accounts for everyrhing.


You know, The Supreme Being. The Ultimate Reality.

How can one deny this when to deny this is to deny all reality?

The Truth is God.


--> @Mopac
It should be obvious that there is a reality that ties all realities together. A reality that gives all other realities their existence. A reality that is persistent. A reality that accounts for everyrhing.


You know, The Supreme Being. The Ultimate Reality.

How can one deny this when to deny this is to deny all reality?

The Truth is God.
Exactly how many realities do you have?

--> @disgusted
There is One Ultimate Reality.
--> @Mopac
Passion? I said annoy not hate. My soul is just compelled to call out bs. 

Multiple realities is a theory not a fact. Your assuming they are all tied together and that there would need to be something to manage that. Even if this was all true, your assuming that "thing" would be your God. Could be Satan. Dont know can't check



--> @Mopac
Answer the question. You claim that your ultimate reality ties all realities together. Now answer the question.
--> @disgusted

disgusted  to Mopac #128 above  "You keep running away from this, is that just cowardice"?



Says the man who keeps  "running away" from his own fkn claims.

"we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"? 



Start by explaining what the theory is and where you got the idea that :

"we have evolved by exactly the same process as every other animal that has ever existed on this planet"? 

You have made an extraordinary claim about a complicated "theory" and I have repeatedly made a simply request , so why are you struggling to explain it and instead choosing to "run away".

--> @Stephen
Once more for the demonstrably dimwitted.
The theory of Evolution.
You obviously don't understand the answer so go and get an education beyond the kindergarten level you currently possess.
Why do you enjoy demonstrating how ignorant you are?