Comparing 2016 US election polls before and after

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    I am going to compare the polls before the 2016 to what it was after the 2016 election. If you didn't know already if you clicked on "Electoral Map Based on Polls" from the first link or this link here you would get the polling before the election. When you click here "State Winners Mapor from the link at the top you see who won. 

    Comparing:

    WA poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue.
    OR poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue. 
    CA poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue.
    ID poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    NV poll had it brown. Election finished it was blue.
    ID poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    UT poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    AZ poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    MT poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    WY poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    CO poll had it brown. Election finished it was blue.
    NM poll had it light blue. Election finished it was blue.
    ND poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    SD poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    NE poll had it red and pink. Election finished it was red.
    KS poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    OK poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    TX poll had it pink. Election finished it was red.
    MN poll had it light blue. Election finished it was blue.
    IA poll had it brown. Election finished it was red.
    MO poll had it pink. Election finished it was red.
    AR poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    LA poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    WI poll had it light blue. Election finished it was red.
    IL poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue.
    MS poll had it pink. Election finished it was red.
    OH poll had it brown. Election finished it was red. 
    KY poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    TN poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    AL poll had it red. Election finished it was red.
    FL poll had it brown. Election finished it was red.
    GA poll had it brown. Election finished it was red. 
    SC poll had it pink. Election finished it was red.
    NC poll had it brown. Election finished it was red.
    VA poll had it brown. Election finished it was red.
    PA poll had it brown. Election finished it was red.
    NY poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue.
    VT poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue.
    NH poll had it brown. Election finished it was blue.
    ME poll had it brown and blue. Election finished it was blue and red.
    AK poll had it brown. Election finished it was red.
    HI poll had it blue. Election finished it was blue.
    WV poll had it red. Election finished it was red. 

    After the Election
    13/44 were blue
    30/44 were red
    1/44 were red and blue

    Before the Election polls
    6/44 were blue
    5/44 were light blue
    12/44 were brown
    5/44 were pink
    1/44 were red and pink
    1/44 were blue and brown
    14/44 were red

    So basically the only place where you might have a case of polling not being accurate was in WI were the polls states it leaned democrat but went to the Republicans. Nowhere else do poll-deniers have a case specifically before the 2016 election.

    Brown is a tossup. Meaning it can go either way. I think that is more commonly associated as a swing state but in this context it would be called a swing vote.

    Two colors I think meant half were one color and the rest were another color. 

    As I have clearly shown the polls are correct. They were wrong about 1 state if we say leaning democrat means they will vote for democrat but every single other state they said it was a swing state or were completely right if we go by the assumption that leaning republican or leaning democrat means they will vote for them.

    This is mainly educational for the uneducated. I was once uneducated about the polls but now I am not. Thank me later.

    If you want to add nonsensical arguments or actual critiques. Go ahead. I can't stop you. 

  • Mopac
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    No one cares what the polls say so far before the election except nerds and maybe kids who are getting to vote for the first time.

    And that is why you are posting this topic, because of the news cycle using early polls today to relate to how the election will turn out.

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    I still like how MI voted when the polls said it was going to go to Hillary.

    Way for the state to flip the finger at detroit academia.

    WI was just fuel on the fire.
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    @Greyparrot

    Way for the state to flip the finger at detroit academia.
    I knew you guys were against academia. Does fill in gap of why Republicans are so uneducated. 
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    2020, regardless of whoever wins, left or right will be a significant year.  A plurality of kids don't care that much about politics, so the leftist schools can easily indoctrinate kids to be leftist.  This has led to homeschooling being very right wing in nature.  Homeschool kids tend to be better educated then public school kids.
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    --> @Alec
    2020, regardless of whoever wins, left or right will be a significant year. 
    Not really but you can say that if you want.
    Most kids don't care that much about politics, so the leftist schools can easily indoctrinate kids to be leftist.
    What do you mean? Giving them critical thinking skills and other tools in life to use as a way to deal with life? Guess you are against tools that make people rational and help with their daily lives.
    Homeschool kids tend to be better educated then public school kids.
    Metric of how you are determining they are "better educated"
    Evidence? 
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    Guess you are against tools that make people rational and help with their daily lives.
    I'm against indoctrination.

    Metric of how you are determining they are "better educated"
    Evidence? 

    https://www.brighthubeducation.com/homeschool-methodologies/87123-what-do-the-statistics-say-about-homeschooling/ states that the average public schooler gets in the 50th percentile and the average home schooler is in the 80th percentile.

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    I'm against indoctrination.
    Homeschooling is indoctrination and Religion at its most popular form is indoctrination. Are you against those?
    https://www.brighthubeducation.com/homeschool-methodologies/87123-what-do-the-statistics-say-about-homeschooling/ states that the average public schooler gets in the 50th percentile and the average home schooler is in the 80th percentile.
    None of this was sourced nor did people in the comment say it was credible. Here is what was said in the comment section:
    "I'm bothered that they seem to put weight on one study by Brian D. Ray. I read his study/reserch and it is one-sided, not detailed and frankly, stupid. Really? This guy is supposed to be your God? Hmmm. ??? Maybe becuase he is a home school advocate and perhaps homeschooled himself and has a narrow view on life. Just what he feels comfortable with exploring amongst like-minded people he surrounded himself with..."

    The data about what is important as in how they score in test is from 2008. It is 11 years away from the current year. This is if I agree with the findings because I have to assume they are right or wrong because they haven't sourced anything.  The college test results were in 2010 but not close enough because it is still 9 years away from the current date. It goes onto speaking about price and Brian D. Ray who from the looks did a survey. Basically irrelevant data if we want something done now not 9 years ago.

    So basically as you can clearly see this is not in anyway making a balanced approach to both sides instead simply cherry picks data for home-school and leaves out the drawbacks of it. Not a credible source due to the non-existence of providing sources for their claims and the person in the comment section clearly lays out the problem of how this was laid out.


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    I knew you guys were
    Who is this referring to?

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    Who is this referring to?
    What do you think I am referring to? 
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    What do you think I am referring to?

    I have no idea.
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    Read it the opening comment.