affirminitive Action hurts minorites

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10/10 video, destroys Affirmative Action.

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FreedomToons is great in general
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Yeah, funny,intelligent and destroyes liberals
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Definitely not helping minorities
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Affirmative school vouchers would be more helpful, maybe money into urban renewal and expanding opportunities for minorities to invest in themselves. Maybe pay fathers to stay home and be fathers could help alot too.
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Another easily discredited conservative sophistry. If anyone had bothered googling they would see that black / white graduation rates at Harvard and other Ivy League schools are fairly close, and much closer than at schools where race-based affirmative action is illegal (e.g. UC Berkely) https://cdn.jbhe.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gradrates-topranked2013.png
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Its an example
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The American plutocracy uses race to divide and rule the American proletariat. We must embrace our brown brothers and unite against the ruling class. Only then will we end capitalist oppression.
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So you want socialism or communism?

I know capitalism is bad but I doubt the progress in technology will be similar under socialism or communism. 
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Whichever system happens to be in the best interests of the people depending on the facts and circumstances of each case. Socialization can be the answer where the free market fails or where the free market would be impracticable. The streets have long been socialized without controversy, and this seems to be in the best interests of the people as a system of private roads would be impractical. On the other hand competition in a free market system encourages innovation like you're saying. There should not be blind ideological adherence to one system or another, but a choice between one or the other with a decision guided by the facts and circumstances.
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"capitalist oppression."

Explain???
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There should not be blind ideological adherence to one system or another, but a choice between one or the other with a decision guided by the facts and circumstances.
What are for then? A mixed economy?
It would have the free market plus socialist policies. You can decide the slant in whichever direction you want.
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Yes that sounds accurate.
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Yes that sounds accurate.
Same. 

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You forgot about this:

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Your source shows their wages going up by 10% over 50 years.  They can get better, more productive jobs if they want higher wages.
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Much of the shift for the bottom 50% is comprised in student debt according to this graph
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Your source shows their wages going up by 10% over 50 years.  They can get better, more productive jobs if they want higher wages.
Look at the second to last graph titled "Wage increases in the U.S. rise to the top earners". Come back to me when you have seen it. 

Where in anywhere of the source I brought up did they mention "their wages going up by 10% over 50 years"?

I am not spending time debunking what you said later on until you give more detail. 

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Alec's strong suit is not arithmetic.
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Alec's strong suit is not arithmetic.
The graph title was words not letters. The graph was also easy to read simply showing the rich have their wages increasing whereas everyone barely even nudge. So I don't see what problem he has. 

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Can you please explain why you posted this?
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Many?
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Many?
What do you mean?