Evolution is real

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    Since Evolution is God's process, it's real

    Evidence

    Fossil layers are fossils that formed in sedimentary rock. Sedimentary rock is rock that is formed in layers by the depositing and pressing of sediments on top of each other. Sediments are any loose material that gets broken away and carried: pieces of rocks, pebbles, sand, clay, silt, boulders, dead organisms, animals, plants, shells, insects . . . . When sediments move and settle somewhere, they are being deposited. When, over a long time, layers and layers of sediments get deposited on top of each other, the weight of the top layers presses down on the bottom layers, forming them into rock called sedimentary rock. The oldest layers are on the bottom, and the youngest layers are on the top. Because sediments sometimes include once-living organisms, sedimentary rock often contains a lot of fossils. Fossils are once-living organisms that have been turned into rock, in which the shape or form of the organism can still be seen.
    Once thing that Darwin noticed on his travels, and that people continue to notice today, is that fossils in the bottom layers are very different from the organisms alive today; Darwin didn't even recognize them. As one looks farther up, at younger and younger rock layers, the fossilized plants and animals become more and more familiar until they are a lot like organisms that are around now. The organisms also tend to become more and more complex.
    From this, Darwin concluded that organisms have not remained the same since earth's beginning, and that they have changed a lot, gradually becoming more and more complex. He also realized that as new species arise, other ones become extinct.
    People look at fossils to discover which life forms evolved first and which later on. Today scientists also have ways of dating the rocks, figuring out about how long ago each layer was deposited. This also helps us piece together the time scale of evolution and when certain events occurred.

    One type of evidence for evolution (evidence that organisms are related, descended from a few common ancestors, and change to adapt to their environments) is that organisms are similar to each other, but not exactly the same. Similar organisms have differences that help them adapt to their environments.Many organisms have similar body plans. Horses', donkeys', and zebras' bodies are set up in pretty much the same way, because they are descended from a common ancestor. As organisms adapt and evolve, not everything about them changes. The differences, such as the zebra's stripes, show that each species adapted to its own environment after branching off from the common ancestor.The bodies of deer, moose, zebras, and horses are very similar, and these animals are very closely related. One major difference is that deer and moose have antlers and zebras and horses don't. Why is this? Deer and moose live alone or in small groups, while zebras and horses live in large herds. Living in a herd provides its own protection from enemies: it is easier to attack an individual than a huge herd. Therefore, herd-living animals do not need the antlers that their loner relatives need for protection. In addition, running or grazing with large antlers is hard to do in a herd, where it is easy to accidentally stab one's neighbor.All insects have heads, abdomens, and thoraxes, antennae, six legs, and wings. However, each species is different, and while all insects have wings, some have small, useless wings, because their environments did not force them to evolve useful wings, or because their wings became harmful to survival.All birds have feathers, beaks, and wings, but are different because they had to adapt to different environments, such as the webbed feet of water birds but not of land birds. On a more distant level, fish and zebras both have eyes, frogs and baboons both have spines. Generally, the longer ago the last common ancestor lived, the less the organisms have in common. Turtles and tortoises share a common ancestor, but began evolving separately a long time ago. The common ancestor of box and painted turtles lived more recently, so the box turtle has more in common with the painted turtle than it does with the tortoise. How similar two organisms are can help people figure out how closely they are related.The study of one type of evidence of evolution is called embryology, the study of embryos. An embryo is an unborn (or unhatched) animal or human young in its earliest phases. Embryos of many different kinds of animals: mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, etc. look very similar and it is often difficult to tell them apart. Many traits of one type of animal appear in the embryo of another type of animal. For example, fish embryos and human embryos both have gill slits. In fish they develop into gills, but in humans they disappear before birth.This shows that the animals are similar and that they develop similarly, implying that they are related, have common ancestors and that they started out the same, gradually evolving different traits, but that the basic plan for a creature's beginning remains the same.
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    If you assume God exists and lets say the Bible is the word of God and science can only be in line with God then yeah you would be true but those are still assumptions. 
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    God s real,not an assumption
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    Prove it. 
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    1.Complications of Life
    2.The Universe starts somewhere and somehow 
    3.Jesus has been recorded as well as his execution and resurrection

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    1.Complications of Life
    Complications of God?
    2.The Universe starts somewhere and somehow 
    Something from something right? Creatio Ex Materia. So what something created God?
    3.Jesus has been recorded as well as his execution and resurrection
    His tomb is not evidence of his resurrection. A resurrection is evidence of a resurrection. This would be proven if lets say we were able to test a how-to guide on bringing people back to life or the Bible has video footage of the resurrection occurring. None of these are in the Bible. 
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    1.Life is so complicated,its not a coincidence

    2.Things happen without coincidence

    3.If the tomb was empty, he ressurected

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    1.Life is so complicated,its not a coincidence
    God is also complicated.
    2.Things happen without coincidence
    How about God?
    3.If the tomb was empty, he ressurected
    No he doesn't. It just means the body wasn't there when the tomb was opened. This can mean someone stole Jesus, he was never there or he resurrected. I have shown 3 different scenarios. Neither of them are proved. If someone stole Jesus someone would have to prove Jesus was stolen. If Jesus was never there then they would have to prove he was never there. If Jesus resurrected then someone would have to prove the resurrection actually took place. If you do it your way then my Jesus was stolen holds the same weight as Jesus resurrection if we go by anything being possible but if we go by probability mine would be easier to believe than yours because I can steal and you can't resurrect nor can any other thing in existence. 
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    1.How so?
    2.Im talking about the universe and how life began
    3.You have to prove those things
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    1.How so?
    You have already stated life is complicated but wouldn't creator of life be even more complicated?
    2.Im talking about the universe and how life began
    So you don't think God created it?
    3.You have to prove those things
    Like the resurrection which have yet to be proven. An empty tomb is an empty tomb. 
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    1.No, The Bible is quite easy to read
    2.Yes
    3.Prove how the empty tomb isn't resurrection
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    1.No, The Bible is quite easy to read
    You said life is complicated. I am simply saying the supposed creator of life is more complicated. Do you not understand that or are you going to pivot?
    2.Yes
    Why are you a Christian if you don't think God created life?
    3.Prove how the empty tomb isn't resurrection
    The burden is on you to prove that it was. You made the positive claim. I didn't. I can't disprove something that I didn't start nor do I believe in. See the problem? 
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    1.Why?
    2.oops,I messed up no
    3.why was the tomb empty
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    1.Why?
    Why is life complicated?
    2.oops,I messed up no
    So God must also have a cause then. 
    3.why was the tomb empty
    I don't know but you think it is a resurrection yet you have no evidence for it. 
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    1.Is it not obvious
    2.Yes
    3.Fire and Penetecost, if it wasnt a ressurection,what was it
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    1.Is it not obvious
    If you say life is complicated. Wouldn't the person who created life also be complicated?
    2.Yes
    What caused God?
    3.Fire and Penetecost, if it wasnt a ressurection,what was it
    Is this a how-to guide? Have you resurrected someone with fire and penetecost or are these two random things you think would happen when a resurrection occurs?
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    1.No
    2.Himself
    3.If it's not a ressurection,what is it

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    1.No
    So lets take another example. Watches are complicated right. But what about the watchmaker? You have already concluded life is complicated yet can't see how God is not more complicated than life. Are you saying God is simple? 
    2.Himself
    How do you do that?
    3.If it's not a ressurection,what is it
    I don't know. It is not the burden of me to prove your Religion. It is your burden and yet to you have yet to fulfill. Not my problem you can't provide evidence for the very Religion you believe in. 

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    1.Wathces is different
    2.He is just there
    3.Its called faith
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    1.Wathces is different
    How? Can you make a watch?
    2.He is just there
    Nothing is just there. From what we know everything has a cause that isn't them yet you are making this claim without evidence.
    3.Its called faith
    So no evidence of the resurrection. Gotcha. Christianity are the same as fairy tales instead they are being followed by a much older demographic then what was intended for fairy tails.
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    1.Yes
    2.Belief
    3.It doesn't mater I believe
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    1.Yes
    This is a lie. You can't actually rebut my claims so you resort to lying.
    2.Belief
    I knew that already. Just wanted to see if you had any evidence.
    3.It doesn't mater I believe
    Guess you can't actually defend what you just said instead defaulted to this. 
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    1.I can
    2.I do
    3.I can
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    Evidence? 
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    Why is God complicated