Robots could take 20M manufacturing jobs by 2030, report claims

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    This is why under a more socialized system with universal basic income, socialized healthcare, socialized education, and redistribution of resources would be an ideal solution to the rise of AI intelligence to ensure those whose jobs are taken still have the means to survive. 

    Under a pure capitalistic system anyone who's job is taken is essentially sentenced to death. 

    This is exactly why a social democracy is a better and more realistic form of economics than a pure capitalist society. 

    Even if you argue that robots taking over society is bad regardless, well under a more socialized system the government could simply stop innovating when it comes to AI intelligence. 

    Granted this is bad since AI intelligence would be very beneficial but still whichever way you twist it, capitalism is outdated and needs to be replaced. 
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    This is why under a more socialized system with universal basic income, socialized healthcare, socialized education, and redistribution of resources would be an ideal solution to the rise of AI intelligence to ensure those whose jobs are taken still have the means to survive. 

    Under a pure capitalistic system anyone who's job is taken is essentially sentenced to death. 

    This is exactly why a social democracy is a better and more realistic form of economics than a pure capitalist society. 
    This notion of a "pure capitalistic system" assumes that socialization isn't most accurately rendered independently of the state.  Actually, it seems to go even further and idealize that all socialization is done through the state government.  A moral people care for one another in a capitalistic economy, and a socialized economy in the sense of struggling against capitalism and abolishing it isn't an accurate reflection of reality in contemporary politics of the United States.  
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    No some people are screwed.

    Capitalism is cool if it is useful. It is the most useful to the rich. Robots are going to be peak performance in making money. Therefore the rich would probably use robots. If they keep it then everyone else is screwed. Maybe it will happen or maybe it won't. I don't really care even though I kinda should given it could impact me but whatever. 
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    commie
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    I don't like communism.

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    Why do you think this is capitalism
  • TheRealNihilist
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    Not good by itself. Mixed economy cool. 

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    With what
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    With what
    Taxes and other re-distributive policies. 
  • Dr.Franklin
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    so socialism
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    so socialism
    No a mixed economy.

    Socialism is when you don't have capitalism.
    Capitalism is when you don't have socialism.

    Mixed economy takes both. Might be evenly or on the side of one. 

    Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

    Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
  • Dr.Franklin
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    you cant have mixed
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    you cant have mixed
    What is the United States?

  • Dr.Franklin
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    Capitlist
  • TheRealNihilist
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    Capitlist
    And?
  • Dr.Franklin
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    That's it
  • TheRealNihilist
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    Taxes?
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    That;s part of capitalism
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    That;s part of capitalism
    Taxes is a socialist policy.
    Look back at the defintions I gave.
    Private business are being given money a public entity is and they are redistributing as they see if it. That is socialism.
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    There are still taxes under a capitlist society
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    That is because of the capitalist property. It is because of the socialist property.

    Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

    Money is given to the government in the form of taxes which is distributed as they see fit. That is a socialist policy. Not a capitalist one. 

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    "That is because of the capitalist property."

    That is not because of the capitalist property.
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    WRONG