abortion is murder

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  • Mharman
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    Fetal studies have shown the baby is alive. Quit saying it's a part of the woman's body.


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    --> @Mharman
    A fetus is not considered a legal person by the SCOTUS until the 2nd trimester, and even then it is legally an inferior person in the second and third trimester if the mother's life is hindered in any way.
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    --> @Mharman
    No one has ever said a fetus isn’t alive; just that it is not developed enough for its rights to be placed over the well being of the human it depends upon for harvesting nutrients from, altering the body of, and impacting the life of without consent.
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    --> @Ramshutu
    ,I am not pro-abortion.  If a woman is pregnant with a healthy foetus and is wiling and able togive her child a good start in life I think she should hae it.

    But in the real world, some women will want or require an abortion.   Virtually everybody agrees that there's no problem with abortion before fertilsation occurs and agree that post-natal infanticide is not acceptable - the only disagreement is the point at which abortion switches from acceptable to unacceptable.

    There have been any number of suggestions for determining the 'point of no return', many with merit.  I could list a few but i won't!

    My suggestion is a Benthamite one: Abortion is unacceptable if would cause the foetus to suffer.

    That's a bit of a cop out because I haven't said what suffering is, nor how to determine if a foetus suffers or not.  But I take it mean that there should be constant research and review so we close-in on a goal of allowing abortion upto the point where there is no suffering but not a moment beyond it.


  • Death23
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    --> @Mharman
    Abortion isn't murder.
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    Fetal studies have shown the baby is alive. Quit saying it's a part of the woman's body.
    So obvious, anyone who disagrees doesn't understand

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    --> @Death23
    Abortion isn't murder.
    Nice Joke

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    --> @Dr.Franklin
    Abortion isn't murder.

    Call the cops on Planned Parenthood and see what happens.
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    --> @Death23
    Oh well you see, it's only ok when the human is in the stomach right!!!!!!
  • Death23
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    We were talking about whether or not abortion is murder. We weren't talking about whether or not abortion is "ok". That's a different question.
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    For obvious reasons, abortion isn't murder.
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    --> @Mharman
    Quit saying it's a part of the woman's body.
    I will never stop stating truth and you, or those like you  ---ex Alec---  will never stop stating a false narrative ergo lies!

    1} The fertilized egg is a part of the womans body and is internal to the womb and she has all rights to it, not any perverts outside of her think they have a right to stick their nose *v* into her bodily business.  Please stop with your immoral behaviour and actions. PLEASE!

    ....Truth hurts but will need to suck on it if you going public with your false narrative....................

    2} the fetus is attached to the pregnant womans uterus/womb and recieves all of its nutrients from her via umbilical cord and does  it does not breath oxygen as the does independent { individual } pregnant woman carrier does.

    .......Truth hurts but will need to suck on tuth it if you going public with your false narrative..............................

    3} fetus/baby is attached to pregnant womans uterus/womb and receive all of its nutrients from her and it does not, not breath oxygen as does the independent { individual } pregnant woman carrier

    ........Truth hurts but will need to suck on truth if you going public with your false narrative................................

    You nor any others with you immoral and perverted false narrative have added to or invalidated any of my comments on this issue/topic and you never will.  Your type is a waste of bandwidth.
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    --> @keithprosser
    There have been any number of suggestions for determining the 'point of no return', many with merit.
    Kieth you need to keep your nose *v* out of pregnants womans bodily business.

    The line is when the fetus/baby is;

    1} born out of the woman,

    2} has taken its first INspiration of oxygen,

    3} the umbilical cord is severed.

    The pregnant woman is not a mother until the baby is viable INspiring independant individual.

    This rational, logical common sense inherent rights of any pregnant woman that you and others need to respect. Period!
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    It's not like it's a human in development  right
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    --> @Mharman
    If it's not a part of her body then she has every right to remove it.
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    --> @Dr.Franklin
    Perhaps you didn't notice that all of the definitions for murder contained the word "illegal" or "unlawful". Abortion isn't murder because it's legal. This is like saying that killing in self defense or lawfully executing a condemned prisoner is murder. These things aren't murder because they're not illegal. Murder is a crime.
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    Abortion is illegal in most states, 
  • Death23
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    Not really.


  • disgusted
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    Use the correct terms. There is no baby involved, you people can't make an argument without lying.
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    If you don't want children, close your legs.
  • disgusted
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    No baby start again.
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    Why?
    Is removing your tumor illegal in most states? Why?
    Is the cancer a part of your body?
  • disgusted
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    Never had sex? Yes it shows.
  • Mopac
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    --> @disgusted
    I'm married. It would be weird if we never had sex.



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    Describe yourself as weird if you want.