Buddas Beginner Series 1.1 ENDGAME

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  • Buddamoose
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    Town wins!

    I'm pleasantly surprised that despite the Cop being killed N0, town was still able to pull out the win. well done. 

    Biggest Town Tell

    Virtuoso's reaction to a N0 start was a pretty big town tell. It came across as super genuine, and XLAV was correct to point that out, but it's not wholly indicative of affiliation, which leads us into... 

    Biggest Scum Tell

    XLAV would have come across town AF in observing Virt's reaction was town. However he did two things that were scum-tells in at leaast this game, even if not necessarily being universal tells. 

    - Tunneling RM when Earth was fmpov equally scummy
    -Adding a mod psych argument upon the already clear indication Virt was town. This is a good example of manufacturing a read. Mod Psych is especially unreliable as it assumes direct knowledge of how a specific mod will act in relation to reponses to player complaints or questions. 

    For example, on DDO in "Under the Shade of the Sycamore Tree Mafia" Khaos_Mage was very vocal about the game being unbalanced against town. I disagreed and that was taken as confirmation of Khaos_Mage. The only problem, he was third party and "stole" the game from a town that lynched all mafia, even with all deaths being janitored. 

    On Game Interaction

    I can understand the complaints made regarding my involvement as a mod. I'll cut back on the amount of interaction with players, even if I disagree that any such actions indicate affiliation, it does still get used as such regardless. 

    As a mod, i'll still publically announce requests of information regarding mechanics, as that is information pertinent to all involved players. Balance concerns can however, reasonably be held till Endgame. 

    MVP

    It's a hard choice, but im gonna go with a tie between Virt and Greyparrot. Virt because, balance complaint aside, came across as towny AF in most of his actions. Greyparrot because he joined the game and suddenly DP2 and DP3 were over in less than an hour each, which is very fast. Fmpov GP's entry created the accelerated DP's because he made it wholly clear his scum team was XLAV/Earth and he wasnt gonna change his mind. 

    Big Mistake

    Not cc'ing doc. This would have been a solid move from Earth. Being Doc would have given Earth the perfect cover for not really scumhunting and laying low despite still being active. 

    Whether or not the games outcome would have changed is in the air, however in my humble opinion, it would have at least significantly increased the likelihood of pulling off the single mislynch needed to win 🤔

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    Earth didn't even have to do the gymnastics with CC the doc.

    Scum should always have a solid bussing strategy in the works. No bussing made the scum team obvious.

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    And MVP Virt? Lol he really lucked into his position of 90% likely town from his 1st post blunder. He wouldn't even hammer XLAV after I already discovered the scumteam.
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    I was mvp wtf
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    Ur editing made you look scummy, its hard to claim MVP if you appear scummy because of ones own actions fmpov 🤔. It wasnt even a gambit, which would be the exception to that imho. 
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    No it's not, gp was very good at understanding how blatantly brilliant I had been as town and helped me put extreme panicky pressure on scum so much so that scum fucked up n2 as well by killing virt.
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    Yes, because he did the most solid job in appearing town. This, because he was town, significantly increased the probability of town successfully lynching to a solid degree 🤔. 
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    Lol you were all over the place. Also there were times where you questioned Virt's towniness....like why?
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    No it didn't. I single handedly made scum go from being on me to begging for mercy.
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    Ur being highly post facto revisionist RM.
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    You should always be willing to rethink scum, that's called being high Iq and humble to know you can be tricked.
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    I am not I am telling you that me and gp carried hard and I did it from further setback.
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    Yah but it was 100% a fluke on his first post. Nothing he said after made a difference (at least to me)
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    Besides, your entire vehemence in disagreeing is quite obviously predicated upon the conflation that not being "most valuable" = not making valuable contributions. When that's not at all the case. 🤔
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    Good game all!
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    Gg. When you said I had wolfy vibes I had just changed my pic so I realised later what you meant.
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    Dude I made it so that scum had to keep me alive to not scumtell and so that the clear townread me so solid that keeping me alive was the way gp was so sure of the team.
    I was a cunning Mastermind you don't even know.

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    Omg lol!..RM was scumteam's best target for a mislynch, which is the only reason they didn't target RM for a night kill. Why scum didn't immediately kill off virtuoso (90% confirmed town from his 1st post blunder) was a huge mistake. (I lied when I said I protected him btw...best play with self healing doc is to always heal self)

    When I got subbed into the game, it was practically over, I just had to go through the motions. Scumteam really lost this game much more than any brilliant plays by town.
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    Virt established himself as pretty likely town from the get-go, then acted in a manner that didnt detract from that initial likely town reading. His scumhunting was not exceptional per se. But there is great value to a towny who removes themselves through action from being lynched. Because that not only increases the likelihood of a true lynch, but also necessarily makes them a likely target of a NK, adding an element of predicability to potential targets mafia might have. 

    You overall contributed positively, never said you didnt. For once, try pulling whatever crawled up your ass, out and not take extreme offense to something that wasn't insulting. Like Christ sakes man, try growing a pair for once, you aren't 5, just hecause somebody else gets a prize and you didnt doesn't actually justify throwing a conniption fit anymore, and it never really did  🤔
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    The fact you selfed and lied makes me respect you more.i still consider myself mvp even though you're far above the rest.

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    Growing a pair is why I said I was mvp. A coward would agree to you.
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    In all seriousness RM, you were fantastic this game. You were conf town on xlav’s flip. Xlav made a huge mostake in hard pushing you. 
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    Nah man, growing a pair would not be realizing not getting MVP doesn't mean your actions werent valuable contributions. As stated, making yourself the #1 ML target, an MVP does not make 
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    Yeah his d1 flip was to frame me as he made it intentionally when the time was over to validate the lynch if I had done it.

    I am grateful for the compliment ;)

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    However, thats also not to say it wasn't a valuable contribution. Your mistake in editing posts in essence putter XLAV, and as Virt pointed out, him flipping Maf essentially confirmed you.