Is homosexuality harmful to society?

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Interested in possibly starting a debate on this subject and want to see if anyone genuinely believes that homosexuality is harmful to society. 
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yes
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Care to elaborate? 
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no 
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 lol
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Ok, I guess I will explain, Homosexuality itself isn't bad but the community and the "pride" around it is
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The LGBT community is irrelevant to homosexuality being evil firstly. 

Secondly, ok care to elaborate? 
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Society is what society is at the time.

As such, society cannot be harmed.


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Waving dildos around is not pride
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Soceity includes murderers, murderers cant be harmful.
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Firstly the dildo waving homosexuals are in a tiny minority and don't represent the majority of homosexuals.

Secondly again this has nothing to do with homosexuality in and of itself. By that logic I could site heterosexual men raping women and cite that meaning that heterosexuality is harmful.
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If you are asking a question then use a question mark. Otherwise your post is in full agreement with my previous post.

Nonetheless it's true to say that murderers can only harm their victims.

Society is our perception of a collective. Whether that be the whole of human society or sub-society therein, or any other species group.


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No, majority of gays support pride moneh
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I'm playing Devil's advocate here.  How would you respond to the fear of HIV spreading?
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Sexual immorality in all of its forms is harmful to society.

There is intrinsic harm that follows from making the choice to put one's passions ahead  of the right way of doing things.


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The "pride" is in response to the long oppression that gays have felt and is a celebration of being able to live as they choose. 

Saying the "gay community" is "bad" is so far reaching and general that it is impossible to argue. Firstly, the "gay community" is made up of individuals with all kinds of personality traits. Also "bad" has no real meaning at all. Bad for who and in what way? 
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Reproduction: Yes
Happiness: No
Health: I would say yes but that is due to the lack of help for them not something inherent. So this can be fixed so no eventaully when funding is given to gay STI's treatments and preventions.

I think those are the only two things that matter when it comes to what is harmful to society. If the government is removed well I don't think the questions needing answered would change.

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Gay people has never been discriminated agaisnt
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Gay people has never been discriminated agaisnt
Assuming you aren't trolling, this is probably the most asinine statement I've ever heard between debate.org and DART. That isn't backed up by basic statistics whatsoever. 

According to vox, sexual orientation between 2011 and 2015 makes up 22 percent of hate crimes in the United States. Even greater than the number of hate crimes on disabled people and on religion. 

Reject this statistic because vox is " bias"? 

Ok well according to the Seattle Times, the hate crime rate for LGBT people has doubled in Seattle in the past year. 

So you reject statistics done on vox and the Seattle times, aright well let's use the FBI statistics done on hate crime. 

Statistically, the LGBT community made up 15 percent of hate crimes in 2017. Which is an extremely huge number considering the LGBT community is a small fraction of the population compared to women which received significantly fewer hate crimes directed towards them. 

LGBT have historically and very recently been victims of oppression and to write it off is to erase history. 

Are you going to ignore tons of statistical data done on the matter? Ignore the amount of countries where being gay is punishable by death? And ignore the fact that gay marriage was outlawed until very recently? 

Next time before you make incredibly ignorant statements, you should probably do research on the subject before speaking. 


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Hate crime is not discrimination
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A lot of the statistics done on STD's have been vastly outdated. And once the issues became so widespread that vaccines and treatments began being put out the issues alleviated. 

Aids is a prime example, during the '80s and 90's there was a massive aids epidemic in the LGBT community however once vaccines, treatments, and education began being available, the epidemic ceased. 

I mean issues like these aren't exclusive to the LGBT community and exist with heterosexuals as well.
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According to webster discrimination is defined as, 

Definition of discrimination

1aprejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatmentracial discrimination
bthe act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually
It can be assumed that hate crimes committed against LGBT people have been done due to prejudiced treatment and outlook. 


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Ok, where is your statistics done on the majority of LGBT supporting the pride parade? And even if the majority did you still haven't proved that pride parades are harmful to society. 
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tell me how it is useful