what does it say about a society when life expectancy goes down instead of up?

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    Suicide rates and drug abuse are so rampant Americans life spans are shrinking while other nations keep going up, how can such a society be healthy in any way? https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/us-life-expectancy-has-been-declining-heres-why.html
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    your article says nothing about culture, life expentacy going down is good
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    life expentacy going down is good
    Uh... what?
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    No one wants to suffer for long
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    Would you rather be alive or unalive?
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    Alive because I am young, I have plans to live a set number of years to not suffer and reach my creator early. 
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    Would you agree that being alive is (generally) good?

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    No, too subjective, If not alive then in Heaven and it is better, but enjoy you're one ticket here on Earth and I will, enjoying it isn't living good for 70 years and the next 20 in constant pain and memory loss,etc. 

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     life expentacy going down is good
    Most asine statement I've ever heard in my life, not even joking. 

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    I have my reasoning, America does not want to be the country for old people
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    "Our society is so full of suffering that people literally want to die rather than deal with it and this is a good thing."

    Right...
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    you are  retarded how could it be good that people are dying of suicide and heroin over doses? stupid dick brain
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    Some might say that suicide and heroin overdoses rids society of "dick brains".

    Some might also say that population reduction is good for the planet.

    It's no different to saying that civilian casualties in the U.S. led war on terror, are justifiably for the greater good of humanity.
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    i think that response re enforces the dies that we are a dying society consumed with self centered ness
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    Human beings are inherently self centred.

    And nanny state has it's limits.

    Though I would have to question, who are "we" and what is the particular "dying society" that you refer to.
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    @Dr.Franklin (it won't let me tag you)

    Most people who attempt suicide are afflicted with a psychological malady of some kind (1). Should we encourage people with ailments that cloud their judgement to euthanize themselves? Also, drug use and suicide are more prevalent in America's youth than ever (2) (3). Should we encourage people who have not lived long to commit suicide so they don't grow older? I understand not wanting older people to have their life prolonged if they live in agony due to terminal illnesses. My grandparents are diagnosed with Dementia and Alzheimer's disease. However, I don't think a dip in life expectancy is a positive development. People who die leave behind tarnished families. Some provide income to spouses and children. If anything, even if we treat the lives of others with callous indifference (something I'm accused of, so I sort of get the misanthropic view you're supporting), the economic effect of seeing more people die is problematic because it means that families have less income. Perhaps the dip in life expectancy is temporary, but it is still worth noting, and not because this is happy news.

    Sources
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    talk to your grandparents you little shit, are you on crack, and if you had any relgious values youd know they bible is oposed to suicide which is exactly the crazy talk you spout amounts to, a suicide that celebrates death and suiicide
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    wait till YOU ARE old YOU LITTLE SHIT
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    i might add if you do a bit of research people in "nanny" states are very much happier and cotent with their lives than crazy suicidal americans are
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    Were your last three replies aimed at me?

    If so then I will point out a few obvious errors and contradictions.
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    anyone go for it dude have at me!
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    "anyone go for it dude have at me"......What?
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    what what wat what?
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    The US may be struggling as a result of an incredibly prosperous society and a sedentary lifestyle, not failures to provide medicine to the American populous, this is about tackling obesity, diabetes, and heart disease.