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@warren42
OK, thanks for that.
We have everybody's name except Pie.
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@drafterman
I got a message about being someone's top town read and that instructions would follow. The message said not to reveal this until the message giver died and people asked for it.Problem is, I don't think I'm anyone's top town read (save Grey, who isn't a message giver). So I'm revealing this because I think it's evidence that there is a redirector or something, which town needs to know.As far as the NK is concerned, either they tried to target AROSE but it failed because they hid or they tried to target me and it failed because I'm BP. What I find odd is that, if AROSE successfully hid, how was Water able to watch him? AROSE' role says that night actions fail if he successfully hides.So either he didn't hide, which raises the question of why Ragnar's action failed, or he did hide, which raises the question of why Water's role didn't fail.
When did you get this message? Can you give us the exact text?
I think your question about AROSE is very valuable. I'm going back to WP's claim now.
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@oromagi
When did you get this message?
Last DP.
Can you give us the exact text?
That would be against the rules. Why are you trying to get me to mod kill myself?
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@drafterman
Watcher might not apply to hider as it's a passive action...might have to ask the mod.
Yeah I’m a fucking idiot and my brain is fried. I’ll check in in the morning.
Final thoughts for the night:
- Drafter is still probably scum and speed is probably trying to cover what was a big mistake
- If Supa is scum he’s probably a godfather
- At this point I think we do a mass claim and play the claim game
- Not entirely convinced Wylted is town. Feel like he would’ve used his gladiator power by now if so. Scum gladiator has more reason to be concerned than town.
That said, my reads look vaguely like this
town
Water, Arose, Mharman, Grey
town lean
oro
scum
drafter
everyone else is some shade of null
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@warren42
Warren off the scumlist
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@Greyparrot
I think the point was he shouldn’t have been able to watch him.
bsh always uses the analogy of a house. If the hider isn’t at home, the watcher can’t watch the house kinda thing
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@warren42
So you're wrong on just about every single thing you've said, but I'm still scum.
Got it.
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@Greyparrot
Why am I off the scum list
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@drafterman
when exactly? as soon as you arrived or ?
Can you give us the exact text?That would be against the rules. Why are you trying to get me to mod kill myself?
Is it? isn't this a message from another player? and no
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@drafterman
You’re probably scum because I’m giving speed enough credit, despite the apparent fuckups, that he’d let you know your scum partners.
Alright I’m out for real this time
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@drafterman
Did Pie send you a message?
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@oromagi
when exactly? as soon as you arrived or ?
I cant tell you that, it's against the rules.
Is it?
Yes, it is against the rules to cut and paste from your PM. Or use time stamps. Jesus Christ DOES ANYONE READ ANYTHING:
From the OP on DP1:
Don't use PM structure, wincons, PM time stamps, or things of that ilk as points of analysis in the game. Discussion of these issues is strictly prohibited. You may not C/P anything from your PMs into the game or take photos of your PMs. There is to be no communicating via non-mod-initiated methods, even with teammates or hydra-halves. This means there is to be no game-related discussion on G+ hangouts, rabb.it hangouts, unauthorized PMs on site, PMs offsite, etc. If you suspect or know that any such communication is taking place, you are obligated to inform me immediately.
isn't this a message from another player?
Yes, relayed to me via the mod. I don't know who the player is.
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@Greyparrot
I do not know who sent the message.
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@warren42
Final thoughts for the night:- Drafter is still probably scum and speed is probably trying to cover what was a big mistake- If Supa is scum he’s probably a godfather- At this point I think we do a mass claim and play the claim game- Not entirely convinced Wylted is town. Feel like he would’ve used his gladiator power by now if so. Scum gladiator has more reason to be concerned than town.That said, my reads look vaguely like thistownWater, Arose, Mharman, Greytown leanoroscumdrafter
So, Mharman's confirmed town because Ragnar & Oro worked together to lie detect him, but Oro's lean town and Rangar's null.
Pie has not played or claimed anything but Warren trusts him enough to give him his Oracle and has no suspicions now. Why?
Why wouldn't Warren offer to Oracle Pie as the only unnamed player?
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@oromagi
Why is he confirmed town simply because he did not lie about his character?
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For the good of the town, I shall full claim. I am Heimdall, am a watcher, and win with town. I watched you last night a-r-o-s-e (I picked you by chance) and ragnar targeted you. I thought it was nothing, but then I thought, arose wasn't playing like scum. And so wanted to get a lynch on ragnar if no one cause we needed a lynch. But then you came along and were all like "I can block nks" so I think you blocked yourself. If you confirm you blocked yourself then we can get rid of ragnar as he was likely mafia trying to go for a nk.
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@drafterman
ATTENTION: This is a counter claim. Drafterman’s bulletproof claim is BS. Why? Because I am Mantis,, a town 50/50 role-blocker. Last night I roleblocked Drafterman, stopping the NK.VTL Drafterman
This is the statement Ragnar lie detected as TRUE He said he was town
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@oromagi
You said it said what was true was the "50/50 roleblocker"
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@oromagi
Regardless, if it truth detected the whole statement, fine.
FWIW, I was brought to L-1 because of warren, Wylted, MHarman, and Ragnar. Some of those are probably scum. Mharman and Ragnar backed off. So you guys do the POE.
We need a lynch and drafter's the best we've got
VTL Drafterman
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@WaterPhoenix
Why?
Dead:
9. CogentCognizer - Doctor Strange - Governor
Claims:
1. GreyParrot - Aunt May - Vote Giver
3. Ragnar - Clint Barton (Hawkeye) - Vig?
7. warren42 - Scarlet Witch - Oracle
12. Wylted - Thor - Gladiator/Silencer
4. ILikePie5 - Connected with every movie and a lot of the shows - ????
8. oromagi - Tony Stark - Makes Gadgets
5. WaterPhoenix - Heimdall - Watcher
2. drafterman - Hulk - Bullet proof
10. SupaDudz - Nick Furry - ????
11. A-R-O-S-E - Wasp - Weak Hider
6. Mharman - Mantis - 50/50 Roleblocker
UVC
drafterman - 3/6 - warren, Wylted, water
warren - 2/6 - drafterman, AROSE
Mharman - 1/6 - Supa
PIE - 2/6 - oromagi, Grey
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@Speedrace
IT IS SO GOOD OMG OMG
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@oromagi
im gonna role claim tomorrow... I’m too tired
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@WaterPhoenix
Vote pie.
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@drafterman
I've seen the move discussed in multiple strategy threads on other sites and have personally witnessed it a dozen times. It is also very very common and laughable that somebody with your experience is unaware of it
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@Wylted
I've seen the move discussed in multiple strategy threads on other sites
Oh yeah, people talk about it all the time. I never said otherwise. People just don't ever do it.
and have personally witnessed it a dozen times.
Wow. A whole dozen. And yet you've provided evidence of exactly... 0.
It is also very very common and laughable that somebody with your experience is unaware of it
Wow. So we've gone from "not uncommon" to "very very common". I am aware of this idea. But in my 7 years of playing mafia I am not aware of it actually being put into practice. Certainly not to an "not uncommon" degree and absolutely not to a "very very common" degree.
I also notice you didn't actually refute my point. The strategy is only potentially viable because it is so rare.
Not to mention that your entire basis of FOS is because you believe the mod is lying.