Happy Columbus Day

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  • triangle.128k
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    Let's all take a moment to respect the achievements of a great Italian/Spanish explorer (of whom has been demonized by propaganda and lies from the black legend and modern academians)


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    IT'S THANKSGIVING

    REEEEEEEEEEE
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    I am offended by your Amero-centric statement
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    *Crickets*

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    Yes. Lets forget about the slavery, rape and murder. 

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    Indians did all that to each other before Columbus saw them.
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    Indians did all that to each other before Columbus saw them.
    There are still rapists and murderers in the world right now. that doesn't mean we should celebrate them and give them their own day. 
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    Right, so let's erase every holiday because everyone fucked up once.
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    Right, so let's erase every holiday because everyone fucked up once.

    We aren't talking about once. We are talking about multiple crimes. slavery, murder, rape, raping of children, torture. The list goes on and on. Columbus was a monster. If he had screwed up once but was otherwise a good guy, that would be fine. But he was a truly terrible person. 

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    Fine, we can topple statues of the person who invented lobotomies to cure insane people and 20 years from now we can topple statues of the person who invented gender surgeries to cure dysphoria. Let's just totally forget that these people did the best they could under the social constraints and mores and scientific knowledge at the time. Far better than any of their peers.
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    Let's just totally forget that these people did the best they could under the social constraints and mores and scientific knowledge at the time. Far better than any of their peers.
    These things were atrocious even by their standards. There is a reason that people didn't talk about the details of what he did. Europeans would have been shocked by the rape, murder and rape of children.

    This isn't an example of someone doing something that was fine at the time that we later decided was wrong. This was a man who did things that were incredibly wrong even then. But people just ignored them because it was to savages on the other side of the world, so they didn't have to see it.

    Columbus was a monster who murdered, raped and pillaged his way across the Caribbean. He does not deserve to be commemorated. 
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    Pretty decent guy given the era. Great navigator as well.
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    Well said.

    I suspect some of this soreness may be spillover from recent events unrelated to Columbus.