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For me it isn't even a question. Tales of Symphonia 1 and 2

I do quite enjoy Mike Tyson's Punch Out as well.

What are your favourites.

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Best video game of all time is Tetris... it's not even debatable ;)

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Tetris is very addictive, and really it would be a hard game to improve given it's simplicity. However, it just lacks so much of the video game experience to me. No story, no interesting characters, not plot line. Tetris is great, but I myself wouldn't consider it the greatest. 
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I believe it is its simplicity that makes it a timeless game. Sure there's a time and place for story-driven character focused games, and I love playing them. But in a few years I'll have moved on from whatever it is and I'll still be playing Tetris. I'm certain I made this same argument 10 years ago and I certainly don't play whatever the triple-A game was I playing at the time anymore - but I still play Tetris.

I made this argument around 20 years ago (and I recall the time frame specifically because of the game referenced) where my friend asked "Wouldn't you rather be playing Goldeneye (The classic N64 game) instead?", and my answer is the same. "Yes, as of this moment I'd rather play some golden-gun/facility/no odd job-4 player Goldeneye right now". But as times goes on I'll eventually stop playing it, though I'll always be playing Tetris.

I don't believe there is any other game you can make that argument for.

Games like Pac-Man and Pong, among others, come close, but nothing compares to the staying power of Tetris.

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Teris has a style (often imitated, but never duplicated) of easy to learn - tough to master, zen-like gameplay that makes it stand out.

But Beat Saber is a close second to me, in terms of recent games that I'll be playing for a long time. It's easy to pick up and learn, and is zen like tetris is, but in an entirely different way.

When I first started playing, and tried to take on expert mode I was like "There's no way I can do this". But with some practice and time, the feeling of hitting every note, and the sense of muscle memory taking over, makes you feel a sense of satisfaction, like being an unstoppable Jedi master, that no other game has ever made me experience.

I can only play Beat Sabre in short bursts (like any other VR games) but putting on that head set, selecting a song I want to play, and then trying to master a song requiring full body control, creates a zen like focus that no other video game that I've played can match. I don't even know how to describe the feeling when a part of a song comes up where you think 'There's no way I'm going to get past this' and then finally your arms feel like they are just instinctively moving on their own - and when you are finally done you think, "I could beat Darth Vader easily in a light Saber duel...".

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I believe it is its simplicity that makes it a timeless game.
Well there are several games like the first Zelda and the GTA San Andreas which are outdated when it comes to aspects like graphics, but stand the test of time, not for their simplicity, but their complexity.

But I do adore Tetris, my highscore is 278 thousand.





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I've played the heck out of Zelda games (N64 and before), and I played the heck out of GTA San Andreas (ironically when I was playing it, casually driving the country side and seeing the redwood trees, I do recall thinking it was the greatest game of all time), but I (and I think most people) aren't going to go back and play those games, because there is actually a maxed out point of those games where you literally have done everything. You can get a bit more out of them with speed runs, but they, like other open world/story driven games, do have a finite shelf life. With mods some of those games can be extended like Skyrim, which I have put 100s (if not over a thousand) hours into and bought like 4 times across multiple platforms. But it's shelf life is still limited, unlike, what I'd argue, with Tetris. (There are arguments along those lines to be made with multiplayer games though - one could arguably get satisfaction out of playing something like Overwatch forever - and I'd put that game in my top 100 - but that genre argument falls apart with modernization)

I have no idea what to say my highscore is on tetris since the game varies widely across platform and more importantly 'sub genre', which breaks down between "Classic tetris" and "Modern tetris".

Classic Tetris was what most experienced on Gameboy (and then every other pre-modern platform), with its most important feature, differentiating it from modern Tetris, being the fact that pieces locked the moment the piece hit the playing field. Modern Tetris has banking pieces, and most importantly, it allow you to move the piece forever as long as you keep moving it. As someone who cut his tetris chops for years on classic Tetris, the modern game allows me to pretty much play infinitely. So it's not really a matter of what my high score is these days, it's an issue of how how long I am willing to play endless marathon for, before I have to go do other things. I've actually considered going for the highscore on endless marathon on Tetris effect (the most amazing tetris game ever, especially in VR - I can actually feel the latency decrease in VR that playing in non-VR actually feels slow now... a half a millisecond is real), but the consideration isn't about skill, but about whether I want to play a single game for around 80 hours.
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Personal favorites:

Sarge's Heroes
Modern Warfare 2
Need for Speed: Carbon
Pokemon FireRed
Pokemon Emerald
Rainbow 6 Siege
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Pokemon FireRed
I love that game, my personal favourite Pokemon game.

Need for Speed: Carbon
Well, that's my second favourite NFS game, most wanted was miles ahead in my opinion.


Modern Warfare 2
I'm not good enough to play shooters myself.

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I preferred Carbon because of the crew/gang element
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(In order from most liked to least liked)
  1. Paladins
  2. Roblox
  3. Brawlhalla
  4. Minecraft
  5. Terraria


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If you want a great story-driven game, try Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Don't be alarmed that Bethesda made it, this was back in their golden age. Obsidian made New Vegas. Probably both top 5 games I ever played.

I also enjoyed Mike Tython's Punchout ;)
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I also enjoyed Mike Tython's Punchout
That was nothing short of pure genius. Have you beaten it?

try Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas
Never played a fallout game before, I gravitated toward Just Cause and Far Cry for story based shooters. But considering Just Cause sucks now IMO, I'll keep those games on my radar.




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Keep an eye out for the Fallout games. They are older, and you can usually get all DLC with the game for around ~$10 during Black Friday and Christmas. (I believe for you Canadians, it is Boxing Day).

If you have an Xbox One, they are backwards compatible.

Skyrim and Oblivion are other good similar games if you have a month to spare. In my unpopular opinion, they are inferior. But whatever you do, never buy Fallout 4(I unfortunately did) or Fallout 76(I wisely did not).

I'll try to think of other great story-based games.

If you are a bit masochistic, the Dark Souls series is phenomenal.
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Super Mario Maker. Both 1 and 2 are excellent.
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1. Overwatch
2. Call of Duty (BOII, MW3, MW, AW, WAW, WWII)
3. GTA V
4. CS:GO
5. Minecraft

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1.Minecraft
2.mario bros on the Wii
3. SIX SIEGE IS SUCHA  GOOD GAME BETTER THAN CS: GO and OVERWATCH

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I also used to love Just Cause but now 4 has ruined it for me
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Just cause 4 is a train wreck. Even 3 I thought was miles behind 2.
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agreeee

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The greatest game of all-time is The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. It's not my favourite, but the critical and fan reception and the legacy are too much to ignore.
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Welcome to the site! Introduce yourself here.

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Definitely my favorite Zelda. I beat Breath of the Wild not too long ago. Can't wait for the sequel.
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I was really disappointed no one had said Breath Of The Wild until I read this :)

I liked Breath Of The Wild SO MUCH, but it made up for a relatively short plot line (finished in 11 days) with so much extra stuff that I was too lazy to do

I've only played Twilight Princess and Four Swords otherwise. Twilight Princess took me 2 months to finish and was ridiculously puzzle heavy. Four Swords was just crazy hard to get ALL the way to the end. But I love them all so much

I hope to play Ocarina in Time one day and Wind Waker

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The New Modern Warfare is a good game, but the maps are definitely unbalanced. There is a really small map and a huge map

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If you want a great story-driven game, try Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Don't be alarmed that Bethesda made it, this was back in their golden age. Obsidian made New Vegas. Probably both top 5 games I ever played.
New Vegas is better than 3 and I might go as far as just play New Vegas because how much better it is. Variety of factions, better DLC, better characters and a better storyline.

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Don't know why people like Zelda apart from nostalgia. Bought Majora's Mask a while back and thought it would be enough of a departure for me to like it but it wasn't. You start off talking to people, getting introduced to how the game works with dungeons then you talk to some more people and then more dungeons. The main story was barely addressed since you are too busy finding masks on right times. The side-quests I found to be engaging somewhat but due to my dislike of the time system and how little there is I can't exactly appreciate it even though I did like it.

I used notsalgia as a reason mainly because I played Ocarina of Time and remembered enjoying it. Basically ran around had fun then literally was lost. I think it was before entering Lord Jabu Jabu's Belly when I couldn't find what to do. Later on I found out you needed to place a fish in order to continue on but I didn't find any clues to point me to that direction. I think that is the main problem for me if I don't understand what to do then I can't progress. Even when I played it later on I got stuck in the forest temple not realizing where to go. After this I had to deal with the annoying water temple. It literally requires a thing which I dislike which is literally interact with everything after an event occurs. I dislike this if there isn't any fun barrier between this like interesting characters. The water temple is one such place where you have to raise or lower the water level. I didn't realize I had to go to x room at x water level which meant I was completely confused on what silver keys I missed and literally quit given it wouldn't be fun literally repeating the entire water temple in the hopes of finding that one silver key that I missed.

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Basically Zelda games go through the typical talk and dungeons and I find that to be boring given the lack of depth in characters due to the lack of resources on the console plus later releases didn't actually add lot more. This is rambly and because I am going off memory. I think I have a negative slant to the Zelda series but still found it enjoyable like when I woke up Talon with a chicken.


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I am biased because I played Fallout 3 first as a kid, and had an amazing time. I also really liked the Enclave as the main villain. Liam Neeson is your father! Finding him was a better story than being some random courier. Had Liberty Prime in Fallout 3.

That being said, the combat in New Vegas was better, and I liked the fact that you could choose factions. Better dialogue options, which is to be expected from Obsidian. Old World Blues was best DLC.

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Liam Neeson is your father! Finding him was a better story than being some random courier.
A courier can do what he likes. You have a set path yet people still rarely stay on track about the main quest instead do side quest. It is the same problem with Fallout 4. Why are you helping settlements/ people in Megaton when you should be looking for your father? 

Sure a courier could find the man that shot him but do they really want to? There isn't really a choice for the Fallout 3 character since the only real hurdles to progression of finding your father is of course main quests but not side quests. Players chose to do the side quests instead of focusing on finding their father.
Had Liberty Prime in Fallout 3.
Literally only a big robot. All you did was escort it.
Old World Blues was best DLC.
Old World Blues for the all round content.
Dead Money for something new and I liked the Begin Again song. 
Honest Hearts for Joshua Graham and the two guns. Everything else was meh.
Lonesome Road for the finale as if I even cared about this barely mentioned story in the first place and I was for sure bored out of my mind listening to Ulysses.




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Literally only a big robot. All you did was escort it.


He has hilarious. Super anti-communist robot that hurled nukes. It was a very epic battle for the purifier.

A courier can do what he likes. You have a set path yet people still rarely stay on track about the main quest instead do side quest. It is the same problem with Fallout 4. Why are you helping settlements/ people in Megaton when you should be looking for your father? 

Sure a courier could find the man that shot him but do they really want to? There isn't really a choice for the Fallout 3 character since the only real hurdles to progression of finding your father is of course main quests but not side quests. Players chose to do the side quests instead of focusing on finding their father.
Personally disappointed with Fallout 4, but for other reasons. They made the faction choices very diverse, but it was so short that you really couldn't get immersed. It had next to no interesting side quests like Fallout 3 and NV did.

They focused on side quests because the game ended soon after you found your father and the side quests were really good.

Old World Blues for the all round content.
Dead Money for something new and I liked the Begin Again song. 
Honest Hearts for Joshua Graham and the two guns. Everything else was meh.
Lonesome Road for the finale as if I even cared about this barely mentioned story in the first place and I was for sure bored out of my mind listening to Ulysses
Old World Blues was also hilarious.
Dead Money was super different from the base game. The holograms were a bit stressful which is okay, but navigating the city got a bit annoying. Fog made it hard to find your way around and the frequencies at times were infuriating. 
Honest Hearts was pretty meh overall. Not much content, and it was a generic story that seemed taken out of the Bible. Wasn't bad, though.
Lonesome Road had really good lore/story purposes. Gameplay value was decent.