Who's your favourite 2020 candidate, and who do you think is going to win?

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Favourite candidate: Yang

Most likely going to win: This is a tough one, I'm not so sure yet tbh. Warren and Biden seem pretty strong right now.   
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Favorite candidate to me is Klobuchar, she seems like someone who could do the best in un-fucking the gridlock of partisanship in politics while also being smart enough and calm enough to satisfactorily address a lot of national concerns that could come up during a presidency. 

Most likely to win for me is Biden. He does very well in the southern states, among old people who vote the most reliably, and does decent enough in enough states outside the south to stay competitive. Also Warren and Sanders are going to start fighting over the far-left base while no one else is really challenging Biden for the moderate/centrist vote (Buttigieg is kinda doing well in Iowa and NH but outside those states he polls at 4% with all the other non-major candidates)
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Favorite is Sanders. He has by a fair margin the best policies. He is by a large margin the most honest and open about what he believes in and is the most trustworthy to do what he says he will. He is also the only one that actually wants to challenge the complacent and corrupt democratic establishment who have long since stopped caring what their voters want and primarily care about what their donors want. 

Most likely to win is tough. If the vote were held today, probably Biden would win the nomination and then go on to lose to trump. 
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the ones I think have a snowball's chance and that I feel I know enough about to make a decent opinion about....I hate them all.  But it's a double edged sword since they will be great for the firearm industry like Obama was.  Under Trump Ruger has lost millions as just one example of the tole they have taken under his presidency.  Paying higher prices is better than lack or practically no availability because of such low demand, which is what is/was currently happening.  Virginia turning and that douce northam should ramp up demand and then production, so that's some good that will come of it.  History tends to repeat itself and few learn from it.
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Bernie i feel bad, he is old he had a heart attck, but everyone else is just a goy shmuck ,  this nation needs to be run by a marxist jewish college professor, it would be hilarious,the only one even close it that buttgag guy, it would be a real hoot to have to have a gay couple in the white house, the evangelicals would go spastic
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True, I do feel bad for Bernie. He has such good ideas about hoe to reform the government, and his anti-corruption policies are great, but his health issues...

And yeah so true, it would be funny. Although I think American needs to recover from Trump first. Trump at this point is just trolling us, he doesn't care.
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i would love it if that little yid with the brooklyn accent was in the wite house oh how the goyem would lament it would just make them plotz!
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"Us". Says you are Canadian.
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K, just because I'm Canadian, doesn't mean I can't have a say on other countries affairs.

TBH, Canada'a politics kinda suck... Shhh... America's politics are better... shh...
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I always liked visiting Canada, but dam your prices are high, stuff is expensive, and the taxes  sheesh, crazy.  No other way to pay for those entitlements.  But I do like the country and it's people, just not the government as it has been and is currently.
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I always liked visiting Canada, but dam your prices are high, stuff is expensive
This is largely a reflection of shipping. it is more expensive to ship american products to canada. It makes things more expensive. It's economics, not the government. 

and the taxes  sheesh, crazy. 
But Canadians get much better services for those taxes. Canadians pay a fraction for healthcare what americans do. Would you rather pay 10% of your income to the government or 20% of your income to a private company for healthcare? (those numbers are just for demonstrative purposes) I don't understand why people think taxes are somehow evil, but paying a greedy, for profit company that is actively trying to screw you over is somehow good. 


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This is largely a reflection of shipping.
and?  their prices are much higher.  The U.S. imports products from Canada as well and yet there seems to be a disparity.  

But Canadians get much better services for those taxes.
depends on how much money you have.  I'd rather have cancer treatment in the U.S. then the rationed care in Canada even if that means it costs me more, better outcome, better chance > $$

The U.S. over pays for drug prices, this has been the problem for a long time and needs to stop, we need to stop subsidizing the rest of the world by paying a lot more than what other countries pay.  Once that happens and everything is fairly equal then we can revisit and discuss the healthcare costs.  Many will be singing a different tune then and re-evaluating their positions I think.

I really hope Trump does something about the inflated prices the U.S. pays and stops subsidizing the rest of the world.

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and?  their prices are much higher.  The U.S. imports products from Canada as well and yet there seems to be a disparity.  
Fair enough. Lots of land mass and a population spread across it does make this higher. 

depends on how much money you have.  I'd rather have cancer treatment in the U.S. then the rationed care in Canada even if that means it costs me more, better outcome, better chance
Critical care isn't really an issue. If you go to the hospital for a broken toe, you will likely have to wait in line behind a guy in critical condition. But you don't really end up waiting for cancer treatment. 

Here is a link showing survival rates for Colorectal cancer. The US survival rate is like 1% higher, which is statistically insignificant. Do you really want to pay double (and if you don't have insurance many, many times more than that) for a 1% higher survival rate?


we need to stop subsidizing the rest of the world by paying a lot more than what other countries pay. 
You've got this backwards. Companies earn a profit selling drugs in, say, Canada. Otherwise they wouldn't sell them there. They sell for 2-10 times more in the US because the American healthcare system isn't designed to prevent this kind of abuse and they can get away with it. It isn't about Americans subsidizing the world. it is about Americans being ripped off by greedy, for profit companies that would rather let people die than miss out on extra money they could rake in from sick people. 

I really hope Trump does something about the inflated prices the U.S. pays and stops subsidizing the rest of the world.
Do you have any idea how much money drug companies donate to republican politicians, including Trump? It's not gonna happen. He might do some tiny change on the edges so he can claim he did something. But the only way to actually combat this is with fundamental change to US healthcare. And there is no way in hell the republicans will sign on for that. The only thing republicans can agree on about healthcare is that insurance should be taken away from poor people. 
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 it is about Americans being ripped off by greedy, for profit companies
whatever as I said the U.S. over pays, that's the bottom line and it needs to stop, it should have long ago.  They shouldn't have wasted billions on the Obama care website fiasco etc


Do you have any idea how much money drug companies donate to republican politicians
I'm sure that's true which is why when there was a democratic president for 8 years those issues were addressed and solved, right?  oh wait, nvm.

You see this is one of the many things that could be fixed, addressed, whatever without reinventing the wheel.  So that begs the questions why hasn't it been done before now and why should I believe it will be done by the next person promising to do so?  The promises I believe they will keep is to take more of my money and further erode my rights.  You seem to be fine with that, which is your choice, but I'm not fine with it.

Why The US Has Better Cancer Survival Rates Than The Rest Of The World
Mortality Due to Cancer Canada gets a “C” grade and ranks 13th out of 17 peer countries.
Canada ranks below its peers12 when it comes to the number of MRI units available per population—MRI is an important diagnostic tool for many cancers.
The number of specialists per population is below the 15-country average.14 The low number of specialists in Canada may signal a shortage of oncologists to treat cancer. 

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whatever as I said the U.S. over pays, that's the bottom line and it needs to stop, it should have long ago.  They shouldn't have wasted billions on the Obama care website fiasco etc
Say what you want about Obamacare, it got healthcare to millions of americans and at least the Dems are trying to fix it. Republicans have provided absolutely 0 feasible ideas for how to make it better. All they do it try to tear down democrat plans. They kept saying "repeal and replace". They worked hard on repealing, but never got around to pitching an idea for "replace". They are actively working to prevent solutions. 

I'm sure that's true which is why when there was a democratic president for 8 years those issues were addressed and solved, right?  oh wait, nvm.
Obama took a right wing plan (obamacare was thought up by a right wing think tank) because he wanted to be able to get bipartisan support. But instead republicans took every opportunity to gut it and undermine it at every step. Maybe instead of blaming Obama for failing, you should blame the republicans for sabotaging it. 

You see this is one of the many things that could be fixed, addressed, whatever without reinventing the wheel.  So that begs the questions why hasn't it been done before now and why should I believe it will be done by the next person promising to do so?
That is a good question. Why would you believe the people who promised "repeal and replace" but never suggested anything that could replace it? Why would believe a president who said he would get coverage for all americans during the campaign, but also hasn't suggested a single plan that could do that (trump)? Maybe you should trust the only politicians that have actually tried to fix healthcare.
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Dems are trying to fix it.
lol you believe what you want.

Maybe instead of blaming Obama for failing, you should blame the republicans for sabotaging it. 
"You have to pass it to know what's in it"  yeah I blame people who think like that, don't you think they deserve it?
Why would you believe the people who promised "repeal and replace" but never suggested anything that could replace it? 
is that a rhetorical question or do you think you know me or can read my mind?  when did I ever suggest they would or could do anything like what you were talking about?

You seem to think the democrats have done some praiseworthy things and will do more with healthcare,  I believe neither party has done praiseworthy work on healthcare and neither party will do much of anything anytime soon.  Take the red pill and wake up.