Gobekli Tepe: The World’s First Temple?

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    ..."Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years,"......

    ...."This shows sociocultural changes come first, agriculture comes later," says Stanford University archaeologist Ian Hodder, who excavated Catalhoyuk, a prehistoric settlement 300 miles from Gobekli Tepe.

    ...."You can make a good case this area is the real origin of complex Neolithic societies."

    ...What was so important to these early people that they gathered to build (and bury) the stone rings?"......
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    The Worlds oldest known stone temple perhaps.

    But undoubtedly not the Worlds first temple.
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    But undoubtedly not the Worlds first temple.
    Gobeklie was the cross over point from non-civilized to civilized via the specific grains the learned proliverate and harvest with relative ease ergo farming begins in that area 13,000 years ago.

    Sure similar stuff may have happened else where, we just dont have evidence of such. When you do please share.

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    ..."“The dating from the carvings agrees well with timing derived from an ice core from Greenland, which pinpoints the event – probably resulting from the break-up of a giant comet in the inner solar system – to 10,890BC .” [ via University of Edinburgh press release]"....
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    Undoubtedly a temple to a god/s invented before the Jesus god
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    Undoubtedly a temple to a god/s invented before the Jesus god
    If so it appears there gods has extremely long arms as can be seen on many of the monuments. Who knows what, how and why peoples come to what is important to carve into a stone or wooden totem pole.

    Animals is common theme.  Tho the Gobeli peoples do not appear to have combined the animal with the human as many later cultures did or at least with their masks.

    But why the long arms? An over-all-reaching human god that embraces all of the animal{ nature } figurines?

    I also dont yet understand why the article stated this as the beginning of patriarchy?
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    Undoubtedly.
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    Why the long arms? Is it way of saying that humans are superior to other animals?

    Maybe the long arms represented a God from high above reaching down onto the Earth to hold all  nature in its hands?

    Then there is the question of why did the seemingly intentionally bury all of their monuments in stone?

    Did they know that by using stone embracement water would run off ergo less oxidation detriment to their monuments?

    13,000 years old buried and here now we see them. That  is fairly amazing in of itself. 




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    Urfa is near Gobekli Tepe.


    ..." A life-sized  limestone statue  found in Urfa, at the pond known as Balikli Göl, has been carbon-dated to 10,000 – 9,000 BC, making it the earliest known stone sculpture ever found. Its eyes are made of  obsidian. "........

    ..."Obsidian is a naturally occurring volcanic glass formed as an extrusive igneous rock."...

    ...." This is what I also believe that the builders of Göbeklitepe wanted to attract the  attention of the gods , above the stars, in order to interact with them. "......
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    What is also clear that humans from 100 to 13,000 years ago had creative brain processing abilities.

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    ..."Origins of cannabis smoking
    Evidence from ancient burials at high elevations"...


    Ok so this 10,000 or so years after Gobekli Tepee. Do any doubt cannabis played significant part of our ancestors.

    The stuff grows just about anywhere and any soil type.  Poor rocky clay soils or rich black Earth soils.

    ..." Some drugs require specific climates and cultivation techniques to grow. Marijuana fields thrive in climates as dissimilar as the dry heat of Mexico and the chilly winds of Canada. 

    ...Does this mean the marijuana plant can grow nearly everywhere and anywhere? Naturally, the answer is no. 

    ...Similar to any other living beings, plants too have a particular environment in which they thrive best. 
    A cannabis plant need sunlight and high temperature along with regular food and water to survive and grow. "...


    ..." Turkey { Gobekli Tepee } recalibrates agricultural policies to boost cannabis production for industrial use "....