Hypocritical Liberals

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    A recent Netflix series has mocked Jesus and made him about be a sinner, (gay, drug dealer, etc). This is absolutely horrendous ideology and depiction of Jesus Christ, yet if I made fun of Allah or Mohhamad, I would be attacked and banned for. The hypocrisy behind Liberals is maddening. All religions should be treated with respect or appropriated to same amount of mockery and Jesus is
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    What is the series?

    Also, we don't make bomb threats when they mock Jesus, so it is safer.
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    Ha.

    Don't know the name of it because I don't watch the make fun of religion crap
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    Don't know the name of it because I don't watch the make fun of religion crap
    So your argument is that a thing exists, but you have no idea what the name is and didn't watch it? that seems like a silly argument. 

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    My religion being made fun of is not something I enjoy watching at leisure.
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    Plot summaries are a thing too

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    My religion being made fun of is not something I enjoy watching at leisure.
    you don't know what the name is and didn't see it. What is the point of talking about it when you clearly don't really know anything about it?


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    It goes by different names every time.

    Because I know what it is about, and it is unfunny and insults they way Jesus was created. it isn't South Park making it funny type humor. Straight insults
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    Looked it up.

    Called "The First Temptation of Christ".

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    A recent Netflix series has mocked Jesus and made him about be a sinner, (gay, drug dealer, etc). This is absolutely horrendous ideology and depiction of Jesus Christ, yet if I made fun of Allah or Mohhamad, I would be attacked and banned for. The hypocrisy behind Liberals is maddening. All religions should be treated with respect or appropriated to same amount of mockery and Jesus is

    You sound surprised. But you shouldn't be.

    The left wing libtards belive it is open season when it comes to Christianity and Christians.. You will never be called an " christianophobe" when questioning and scrutinizing Christianity. Just look at the religion forum here.

    I question and scrutinize Christianity more often than I do Islam at a rate of at least  5 to 1 and am called all kinds of names and have had all kinds of accusations leveled against me on all of the threads I have started concerning Islam. But Christianity doesn't seem a problem.

    See this thread:

    Am I A Christianophobe?

    There are many here who are quick to label anyone criticizing Islam, the quran and muslims  as islamophobic and racists bigots.  But I have yet to be labeled an Christianophobic racist  bigot with an irrational and uncontrollable fear or dread  (which is the correct definition of a phobic person) when I  criticise Christianity / Christians for believing much of the superstitious nonsense that they have been taught. And no mention of me spreading fear and \hatred.
    Or when I have criticised  The New Testament for its half truths, false stories, its enigmatic and ambiguous verses and for calling it extremely flawed. 

    I haven't been called a Christianophobia racist bigot when I have criticised the Old Testament  when calling it a war book where mankind is controlled by a warmongering psychotic and schizophrenic jealous  god and his human cohorts and also for its superstitious nonsense. Or have I been accused of spreading hatred and fear although I have been accused of some kind of being on some kind of "radicalisation" mission.


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    Its just another in a line of idiots trying to ride the coattails of Jesus to turn a buck.

    They have no talent, do they wait till someone does something notable and then say something scandalous about them to get notoriety they can change into dollars.

    They will fall into obscurity just like the others before them. Who remembers "Jesus Christ: Superstar!" now?
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    At the end of the proverbial day, social reality for the majority of people (Christians included) is far more about turning a buck than it is about religion.

    And making a fast buck is fair game for Liberals and Conservatives alike. There's no moral high ground to be had.


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    I can see how things like that are disrespectful. The difference is whose culture you are trashing. I was born and raised in a christian household. I went to church every week. I have seen how terrible Christianity is. I have every right to trash my culture and religion if I want to. 

    But attacking the culture and religion of other people is where you run into problems. It's like black rappers being allowed to say the N word but white people can't. They can disparage their own group, you can't.
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    At the end of the proverbial day, social reality for the majority of people (Christians included) is far more about turning a buck than it is about religion.
    And you know this how? It seems to me you are telling us your personal belief, not an empirical fact.

    And your personal beliefs are informed by the anti-theist bubble in which you live.

    And making a fast buck is fair game for Liberals and Conservatives alike. There's no moral high ground to be had.
    Sure there is. There is nothing necessarily wrong in making a buck, fast or slow. But feeding off the popularity of others to make a buck by insulting the popular is moral low ground.
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    I have every right to trash my culture and religion if I want to. 
    You have the freedom, not the right.

    I have seen how terrible Christianity is.
    Your perception of your subjective experience is not the history of Christianity.

    But these wing-nuts making the Netflix show are not trying to make a statement about the evils of Christianity or right any perceived wrong.

    They want viewers, and the easy low road is to pick something popular, something cherished, and insult it.

    Behavior like that diminishes our society.

    The OP points out, correctly, that liberals will condemn a similar depiction of Islam as islamo, and homo, phobic, but will defend the producers if the target is Christianity.

    He calls that hypocrisy. He is correct.
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    Hypocritical Liberals and Hypocritical Conservatives alike.

    And they looked from Pig to man and from Man to Pig etc.
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    Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact.

    So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The American press is extremely liberal, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics.

    But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking progressives will accept without question.

    It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself cancelled with surprising effectiveness.

    A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the fake news media, or in the highbrow periodicals.

    Orwell could have been writing about 21st century America.
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    as usual Ethang. I think you are nuts and have no interest in engaging with you. 
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    Then don't HB. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

    I will decide what I do. You do the same for you. I don't think you're nuts, you're something worse. You're dishonest.

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    Exactly.

    How extreme does Liberal have to be before it becomes Conservative?
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    The Overton window isn't controlled by the people anymore.

    Outrage is now simply a tradeable commodity sold to the highest bidder.
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    I'd like to go over some of what you said, and I don't wholly disagree with you. I think you may be right in a way that Netflix is left leaning and they defend groups that the left tends to side with and are okay with poking fun of groups that the right tends to side with. You could say this is unfair, and sure, there is some unfairness to it. I think, though, that the title of this post "Hypocritical Liberals" is not very apt here and didn't require a lot of thought since these are more complex phenomenons that just liberal hypocrisy.

    1. I think white american atheists often have qualms with Christians because they've often previously been (1) Christians themselves, and have faced lots of calls for damnation and plenty of persecution by Christians in and outside of their family for leaving the religion. This happens with all religions but Christianity is still more popular than any other religion in the U.S. despite it's decline. 

    2. It could very well be possible that what we constitute as offensive and inoffensive in first world cultural spheres is largely based on historical context, and that's something that conservatives want to change. For a long time in our country, immigrants, African-Americans, women, non-heterosexuals, and other groups have been treated to the very short end of a very long stick, and this stick is usually pulled away by white Christian guys. Thus, we generally see it as more okay to make fun of White Christian guys than minorities. White Christian guys simply don't face the same threats that minorities do. We're not too fair to Muslim's either, given Trump's proposed ban on exclusively Muslim countries and him previously expressing a want to ban Muslims from the U.S. for a time, and I think Trump has transferred his distaste for Muslims into the Conservative public. Thus, making jokes about Islam is generally regarded as offensive. 

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    I'm also curious how you would want to remedy this. Should no one say offensive things about other groups ever or should it all be fair play?
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    I'm also curious how you would want to remedy this. Should no one say offensive things about other groups ever or should it all be fair play?
    I am not calling for a PC culture. If we mock other religions, I should be allowed to mock Islam and various other religions like they mock Christianity and call Mohammed, "Crazy Mohammed"

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    1. I think white american atheists often have qualms with Christians because they've often previously been (1) Christians themselves, and have faced lots of calls for damnation and plenty of persecution by Christians in and outside of their family for leaving the religion. This happens with all religions but Christianity is still more popular than any other religion in the U.S. despite it's decline. 
    Then why is Christianity to blame. Christianity calls for love and peace for all, especially Orthodoxy. It is the parents fault for spreading a hateful environment and focusing it on Christianity. There anger should be with their parents, not on Jesus themselves.

    2. It could very well be possible that what we constitute as offensive and inoffensive in first world cultural spheres is largely based on historical context, and that's something that conservatives want to change. For a long time in our country, immigrants, African-Americans, women, non-heterosexuals, and other groups have been treated to the very short end of a very long stick, and this stick is usually pulled away by white Christian guys. Thus, we generally see it as more okay to make fun of White Christian guys than minorities. White Christian guys simply don't face the same threats that minorities do. We're not too fair to Muslim's either, given Trump's proposed ban on exclusively Muslim countries and him previously expressing a want to ban Muslims from the U.S. for a time, and I think Trump has transferred his distaste for Muslims into the Conservative public. Thus, making jokes about Islam is generally regarded as offensive. 
    True equality means we can make fun of every race or religion and have it equally valued and treated versus getting mad at other races making jokes about other races