Avengers: Infinity War - Movie/Comic Comparison - Predictions - SPOILERS!

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    **********SPOILERS**********

    This post will contain spoilers about the movie and the comics. If you don't want to be spoiled, stop reading.

    **********SPOILERS**********

    Avengers: Infinity War is the first part of a capstone movie meant to be the culmination of all the Marvel Movies to date. The plot of this particular movie is roughly taken from a series of comics, "Infinity Gauntlet" from 1991.

    There are a number of differences between the movie and the comic series (for better or for worse):

    Motivation

    In the movie, Thanos is motivated by some twisted sense of preservation of the universe. Having experienced the downfall of his own people (which he attributes to over population), he believes that the same fate will befall the rest of the universe unless the population is significantly culled. Deciding upon a 50% reduction he goes about this the hard way, manually halving all of the populations he comes across. At some point he realizes he needs a better way, any decides to capture the Infinity Stones to achieve this. His acquisition of the stones is the underlying impetus for the plots of Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy, and the stones themselves feature significantly in almost all of the MCU Films save Black Panther, Ant Man (1 & 2), and Spiderman: Homecoming.

    In the comics, Thanos actually doesn't give two shits about halving the population of the Universe; Death does. In the comics, Death is an actual being, death personified. She is angered that there are more living beings than dead, and seeks to even the scales. To this end she resurrects and empowers Thanos (who is in love and infatuated with her) to enact her will. Through trickery, Thanos convinces Death that he needs the infinity stones to accomplish this task, and she assists him in collecting them. He has to be reminded of his part of the deal (by his lackey, Mephisto) and only performs "the snap" as an afterthought, thinking that by holding up his side of the bargain, he will earn Death's affection.

    Ultimately, I think this was a good move. Thanos' obsession with death is something that might play in the comics, but would be just a bit too silly on the big screen. It also eliminates having in introduce a new character, a cosmic being at that, and avoids any confusion with Death and Hela, Asgardian Goddess of Death. His plan in the movie is a bit more sensible (even if it has his flaws) whereas his goals in the comics are somewhat undefined.

    Timeline of Events

    Infinity War has been building for quite a while, with the gems appearing predominantly, and Thanos waiting patiently in the background. Only after repeated failures does he decide to enter the game himself, forcibly taking the gems and - only after protracted resistance - is he able to perform "the snap."

    In the comics, Thanos' acquisition of the gems is a plot in its own right (Thanos Quest) and he goes around, personally taking them from various beings. The main plot (Infinity Gauntlet) starts with him in possession of all of the gems, and almost no one is even aware of this until after the "the snap". After culling half the population, then the protracted resistance begins, as Earth's assembled heroes attempt to take back the gauntlet.

    The Fight

    In the movies, the heroes assemble at a number of points to try to prevent Thanos from getting the gems and to take back the gems he has already acquired. In the comics, they can only hope to kill or seize control over the gems, as he already has them all by the time anyone is aware. In both cases, Resistance is Futile, and Thanos easily dispatches them. The main difference is, in the comics, the heroes are acting under the direction of one Adam Warlock, who acknowledges that the fight is merely a distraction while more powerful beings (cosmic entities) muster in an attempt to launch their own attack.
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    Cast of Characters

    The movies are restrained by the characters owned by Disney, and are further limited to those that have actually been established on the big screen. One could argue that this is already too many, having Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Loki, Hulk, War Machine, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Gamora, Nebula, Starlord, Drax, Groot, Rocket, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Mantis, and Falcon. If you missed out on any of the past dozen or so MCU movies and you'll be scratching your head.

    However this is nothing compared to the comics, with a much larger cast of characters and even less restrictions on who they are allowed to use. Forget trying to enumerate them all, but this is par for the course. Comic readers are generally used to being exposed to new characters and plot lines they've never heard of. Furthermore, the comics have an entire pantheon of cosmic beings that the movies have only really hinted at (save for Ego in Guardians of the Galaxy, vol 2).

    In the end, to preserve the integrity of some scenes from the comic, we have to do a character swap (not an uncommon thing in these situations). Silver Surfer is gone, replaced with the Hulk. Adam Warlock has been teased at, but not introduced as a full character and, even then, is hinted to be a villain. Instead we have Dr. Strange taking that role.

    Resolution

    In the comics, Thanos is undone by his own hubris. In his attempt to "please" Death he deliberately weakens his own powers to make the fight "fair" (not really) against the heroes. He then goes on to battle cosmic beings, and ultimately takes the place of Eternity (personification of the Universe). With his mind separated from his body, the gauntlet is removed from his body by Nebula.

    All of the battles are essentially repeated, now with Nebula, and Adam enlists the aid of the depowered Thanos. Thanos agrees to help only because Adam reveals Thanos' true weakness: his own self doubt. Thanos, deep down, doesn't believe he deserves victory, so subconscious sabotages his own efforts to achieve it.

    Now, we don't have the resolution to the movie yet, but I think it's a fair bet it'll deviate significantly. No trippy battles with cosmic beings, and this Thanos is a sufficiently different being than Comic Thanos, that I just don't by the self-sabotage angle. So, what happens? Well...


    Predictions

    1. At some point, Thanos loses possession of the gauntlet. This part I can't really figure out yet. In the comics, his reach overextends his grasp, and the gauntlets is stolen in this moment of oversight. In the movie, he's achieved his goal. He has no further motivations of power, and no Deathly personification to impress. However, his weakness in this regard might be complacency. He may feel no need for the gauntlet, presenting an opportunity for it to be captured. Perhaps he will have claimed to destroy it, but in actuality hidden it.

    2. Nebula will wield the gauntlet at some point. In the comics, Nebula is Thanos' grand daughter whom he kills and resurrects as a semi-mindless zombie. She has enough semblance of sentience that she is still able to seize the gauntlet when the time is right. Her inclusion in the movies seems to be building toward something similar. She has been tortured by Thanos and hates him with a deep passion. She was spared "the snap" and her presence isn't really all that necessary. I believe she will acquire the gauntlet and use it to take revenge upon Thanos, but ultimately will become another villain the heroes must deal with.

    3. Tony will wield the gauntlet at some point. In the end, the gauntlet has to reside with someone. In the comics, its Adam Warlock. Without Adam, and without Strange, Tony seems to be the most promising candidate. He views this as a personal failure and will seek to restore and fix things at any cost. While Captain Marvel will play a significant roll in helping to defeat Thanos, Tony will at some point get the gauntlet and be tempted by its power.

    4. The fate of the gems is unclear. I feel that there will be some attempt to destroy them, but either A) they, being fundamental aspects of the cosmos, will reform; B) this will be a ruse to make everyone believe they are destroyed, but they are secretly separated and given to people for safe keeping. Perhaps: Tony, Black Panther, Dr. Strange, and a number of others? (coughilluminaticough).

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    1. At some point, Thanos loses possession of the gauntlet
    And I bet it won't be spoiderman yanking it off after magically reassembling from dust. Imo someone with a heavy american accent organises a strike force of misfits to take him out and against all odds they.. lose. But not before they find out some dark secret which they send to the past before thanos snapped his fingers thus allowing the heroes to win the battle on titan. Disaster is averted before it begins.


    2. Nebula will wield the gauntlet at some point.
    The comics were before my time, so idk anything about them.

    3. Tony will wield the gauntlet at some point.
    I think there will be a hot potato game with thanos in the middle at some point.

    4. The fate of the gems is unclear.
    I think we'll be led to believe they are destroyed or lost permanently, but then some after credits scene undoes everything by implying they are still around.
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    oh oh oh someone goes into the past and shoots Star Lord before he bloody screws over everyone in the Titan battle. Spoiderman successfully yanks the gauntlet and everyone lives happily ever after, except for starlord (bcuz fuck starlord).